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Old Apr 11, 2016, 10:25 AM
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I think the RS is just fine as it is. We all mod our stuff anyway, so who cares?
Old Apr 11, 2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
We'll just throw unobtainium at everything.

I mean sure, Ford COULD aluminum or carbon fiber everything, but like you said, who the hell wants to pay $60k+ for a Ford Focus?
Exactly. That's the purpose of the hot hatch segment. And the turbo AWD "affordable" segment. Affordable cars. Not super alloy/composite street going race cars. With modern requirement, people have to expect heavier car if they want to keep a certain price point. Especially since the FoRS is coming from an existing platform.
Old Apr 11, 2016, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Some people expect OEM's to use exotic materials for that...lol. They want a a $60k hot hatch that makes 350whp and weights 3k lbs. It's just not realistic for an OEM to build that car as it won't sell very well.
So you don't think Ford could make a competitor to the AMG A45? Which starts at $43K.
Old Apr 11, 2016, 10:57 AM
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So you don't think Ford could make a competitor to the AMG A45? Which starts at $43K.
Which weighs 3,494lbs per car and driver's instrumented test . So what are you getting for the extra money other than luxury?
Old Apr 11, 2016, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
My IX, bone stock with ZERO weight reduction and 3/4 tank of gas weighed 3190 at MIR (Maryland Int'l Raceway). This was about a month or two after I bought it back in '06 with about 1,000 miles on the clock.

Not sure if people understand that over time cars have been getting heavier, whether it's because of safety standards, features that were considered options years ago that are standard in cars now, or whatever. ~3,500lbs for a 2016, four door, AWD, boosted hatch isn't bad at all.
i had a 2006 IX rs and i do know it was over 3200 bone stock, i cant really recall the exact number buy it was way over that. On Robispec scale. Then a second time comoletelyy gutted and caged weighted again also robiscale 3025lbs. Full tank of gas.

My evo X GSR also never was 3500 lbs for sure, i have to look up the corner balancing sheets somewhere. lol.

to be exact.

I am also sure scales are just as different as dynos are....
Old Apr 11, 2016, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
So you don't think Ford could make a competitor to the AMG A45? Which starts at $43K.
the CLA 45 AMG is a monster. Straight line it would destroy the RS or you name it. also just with minor mods becomes even more angry. Handlig is, kind of so so.
Old Apr 11, 2016, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
So you don't think Ford could make a competitor to the AMG A45? Which starts at $43K.
Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Which weighs 3,494lbs per car and driver's instrumented test . So what are you getting for the extra money other than luxury?
So much this. With Mercedes, you're paying for the luxury component. That's why they cost a premium over similar Japanese or American cars. Mercedes doesn't compromise in the same way, and they make you pay for that.
Old Apr 11, 2016, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
the CLA 45 AMG is a monster. Straight line it would destroy the RS or you name it. also just with minor mods becomes even more angry. Handlig is, kind of so so.
Pretty sure my C63 would kill it, quickly.
Old Apr 11, 2016, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
I think the RS is just fine as it is. We all mod our stuff anyway, so who cares?
Yup...ZFG

Originally Posted by Robevo RS
the CLA 45 AMG is a monster. Straight line it would destroy the RS or you name it. also just with minor mods becomes even more angry. Handlig is, kind of so so.
At a $77.9 K monster premium price tag too. I will bank the $40K for ...you name it

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Old Apr 11, 2016, 05:40 PM
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sorry wrong section
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Old Apr 11, 2016, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by whtrice
Yup...NFG



At a $77.9 K monster premium price tag too. I will bank the $40K for ...you name it
I thought they don't sell it in the USA/
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What is going on here, wrong section?
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Best ever? We'll see about that. Out of the others, here in the U.S., it's possible.
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
I thought they don't sell it in the USA/
Neither was the previous RS


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