Focus RS
But it stills "weighs too much" by your logic. So, as long as the car makes more power and goes faster, weight is fine? You're making a terrible point here. The FoRS was also the only manual trans in that race. The Golf R would be much closer if it wasn't an auto..
P.S. Here is an example of the 2016 A45 listed as 1500 kg kerb weight (which is 3306 lbs) http://www.caradvice.com.au/423203/2...4matic-review/
Ok, lets follow that line of thinking. If the Focus RS is 3500+ lbs., then it is the heaviest car in the segment. Heavier than the STI, heavier than the Golf-R, heavier than the S3, and heavier than the A45.
P.S. Here is an example of the 2016 A45 listed as 1500 kg kerb weight (which is 3306 lbs) http://www.caradvice.com.au/423203/2...4matic-review/
P.S. Here is an example of the 2016 A45 listed as 1500 kg kerb weight (which is 3306 lbs) http://www.caradvice.com.au/423203/2...4matic-review/
Yes, the GTR is heavy and fast and I like it just fine. But a 3500+lb. Focus RS is too heavy IMO. As you say the merc is full of luxury, and I suspect that the chassis itself it much lighter than the Focus RS'.
I have owned evos since 2008, and my current car is under 3000 lbs with full interior. To me there is a night and day difference in it vs a 3400+lb. X. It accelerates better, brakes harder, and turns sharper. And the Focus RS looks to be heavier than the X.
I have owned evos since 2008, and my current car is under 3000 lbs with full interior. To me there is a night and day difference in it vs a 3400+lb. X. It accelerates better, brakes harder, and turns sharper. And the Focus RS looks to be heavier than the X.
It isn't. The Evo X is heavier.
ORly?
2014 GSR (last US model with Recaros) 3517 lbs. http://www.edmunds.com/mitsubishi/la...eatures-specs/
2016 Focus RS 3525 lbs (for what looks like the Euro car, I suspect the US model will tack on a few extra pounds for a spare tire, also the US wont get the optional sport seats that are in the test car pictured) http://autoweek.com/article/drive-re...-ford-focus-rs
2014 GSR (last US model with Recaros) 3517 lbs. http://www.edmunds.com/mitsubishi/la...eatures-specs/
2016 Focus RS 3525 lbs (for what looks like the Euro car, I suspect the US model will tack on a few extra pounds for a spare tire, also the US wont get the optional sport seats that are in the test car pictured) http://autoweek.com/article/drive-re...-ford-focus-rs
No USDM Focus RS weights are available. But there ARE 3500+ lb. weights posted for Euro versions. You are smoking crack if you think the US model is going to be lighter despite having heavier seats and a spare tire.
We all know what I meant, quit nit-picking the term I used to describe the type of "automatic" trans is in the car, and agree that the race depicted was not exactly fair. Especially since the Golf R is available with a manual. The AMG has no manual available, so that is what it is. But the race between a manual R and the FoRS would have been even closer.