So?

Anyway just for add on to the 0-62 mph acceleratrion subject. That Is a long time gone when it was actually wonder to run under 5 sec to 62mph or 100 kmh.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/6-s...der-5-seconds/

 

Nobody has a lap time anywhere? Did they sign something to that effect to get the car?

Also, another entrant for $$$$:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/confirm...udi-rs3-sedan/

 

I was discussing price and you brought up US availability.

So my So equals your So

400hp 5- pot in US..Yaaaaaa

 

neh the USA prices are extensively lower then EU or AU etc. so the the Price for the Merc would be different a lot lower here. Probabaly that is one reason why its not here...
So the price you guys posted there vs the RS USA price as an argument against it in performance is meaning less. Hence my "So" is more valid. lolololol

 

Wut?

 

A faster car? http://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-...s-merc-a45-amg

 

But it stills "weighs too much" by your logic. So, as long as the car makes more power and goes faster, weight is fine? You're making a terrible point here. The FoRS was also the only manual trans in that race. The Golf R would be much closer if it wasn't an auto..

 

Yes, the GTR is heavy and fast and I like it just fine. But a 3500+lb. Focus RS is too heavy IMO. As you say the merc is full of luxury, and I suspect that the chassis itself it much lighter than the Focus RS'.

I have owned evos since 2008, and my current car is under 3000 lbs with full interior. To me there is a night and day difference in it vs a 3400+lb. X. It accelerates better, brakes harder, and turns sharper. And the Focus RS looks to be heavier than the X.

 

You literally couldn't have gotten any more ridiculous with what you just said. "In the hot hatch segment, it's OK that "car A" weighs 3500lbs, but "car B" at 3450lbs is too heavy and needs to lose weight." Gtfo...

 

2016 Focus RS is heavy. Sorry if that fact hurts your feelings.

 

By that logic, the CLA45 AMG, which is in the same segment/class, is also heavy. But you're saying its not. Make up your mind, is a 3400-3500lb hot hatch a heavy car, or not...?

 

Yes, IMO a 3400-3500 lb. hot hatch is too heavy. I speculated that the A45 chassis itself is lighter than the Focus RS. There is a wide variety of weights posted for the A45 on the internet, some as low as 3300 lbs.

The posted weights I have seen for the Focus RS are 3552 and 3525. Until one lands on US shores we will not know for certain, but historically US cars weigh MORE than their UK counterparts.

 

I guess there's always gonna be a "heavy" car camp, (GTR, Focus RS, etc.) and a light car camp ( Miata,BRZ, Evo's early gen) ?

 

I never knew price was considered a "So called" performance figure. Your "So" kungfu is weak.

 

Who cares what the chassis weighs, the complete car, as delivered weighs what it weighs. We're not talking about "how light can I make this if I gut it and replace all the suspension components with race parts", we're talking about stock vehicles.