Even if it uses the brakes for the front LSD, I'm sure Quaife or similar will shortly come out with a real front lsd, and the intrusion of the electronics/brakes to act as an LSD would be mostly minimized

 

 

It looks as if it will have better performance than that of the Evo X S-AWC. However the clutches will get hot and it is sort of a limited use system, it will add the extra performance as needed but it can't sustain long periods of use and the system will need repairing when worn out. I can see this system causing a lot of issues. It's very close to the Evoke platform system but it's being used in a hod rod.

I know the evo has clutches inside its ACD but I don't think its used as much as the ford system will be especially when a magazine tests it at Laguna all day. On top of that it uses the brakes as a torque vector and we know this cooks the brakes quickly.

Also with this system being turned on and off the car won't have the full time performance feel since it uses this system only when it requires it. Seems to me it would feel mundane most of the time and when it gets into trouble it will step in and work then go back to being a front drive Focus where as the Evo has a full time race feel.

 

That is the last generation Focus RS, FWD. Not the current one coming out in 2016.

 

yep , and i think that is a Special Edition 500 bhp version from UK.


i drove one in Lime green, and some mods on it.




Good car, BEAUTIFUL engine sound,
It wasnt as convincing as the Evo, neither as handy.
But i have big hopes for this AWD version, because this old one would be a different animal too, with a good AWD system.

 

my absolute favorite until the new one comes out.

 

The more I read, the more I want.

I need a better job.

 

As Robevo well can attest, weight is the enemy!
My Evo 8 is 3110lb fully wet on scales. Since than I installed carbon seat, Titanium exhaust, and at the "scales moment" it worse 24lb heavier/set of 4 wheels than others I usually use on it.
So I think its down to 3050lb fully wet: full equipment. Nothing removed..AC/interior is OEM.

My TME is less than 3000lb for sure, it feel slighter than E8, has to be.
And the lightness and nimbleness is obvious. Its signficantly more "pleasant' to pedal it on backroads.
Its lighter weight, smaller dimensions, really help enjoy the process.

So if this the Focus RS AWD is 3500lb or more even, it will never perform better than Evo 9.
Let alone smaller TME.

Nobody built better sport sedan that can be, with moderate upgrades, the fastest A to B vehicle, than Mitsubishi Evo V, VI, TME, VII-IX.

As much as it would be fun to experience something better, I don't see it coming!

GTR is great technology, but its not faster on road than Evo...that has been tested.
Evo with few simple mods:
Ohlins Road and tracks, HKS turbo, S2 GSC cams, retune.
Its so perfect, if you have the skill, you 'll be amazingly fast. Equal tire...nothing much stands a chance...on real roads..that Robevo knows...real roads, not Freeway...real roads like California Canyon/mountain roads, like European B-roads...

Freeways are congested, nowhere to go.

Well, let's see it.
I doubt it will be great as we hope, the Focus.
Nobody makes lightweight cars any more...even GT86/BRZ/FRS is 2800lb...and they call that Lightweight.

 

But I still want one.

 

I suspect the Focus RS will weigh in between 3200-3300lbs. As for performance, the jury is still out, but I will bet you right now that stock vs. stock it will end up being faster around a track than an Evo 9.

It is sad that cars have gotten heavier and heavier, but a good bit of that weight can be shed if you want to make a track car.

 

I've always been a ford guy and think this car will deliver, but agree you can't beat a light car. My DD is an auto 4banger mazda6 (sport, which just added 17" wheels/tires). Dog slow, but it has crazy high limits for what it is (especially considering chassis was designed in late 90's), and I contribute 80% of that to the low weight.

Can't explain stuff like that to the mustang crowd, that does not realize a stock new base GT (not 15), that I just picked up since they were cheap, is a horribly handling car. Thing is a pig, closer to 3700 with auto (is easy to drive relatively quickly in normal traffic, no lag, no shifting, quiet, smooth, etc...).

 

The current Focus ST FWD is already 3214lbs. I predict the RS will be approx 3400lbs.

The 2015 Golf R, which the Focus copies much from, chassis and suspension wise, is 3,340lbs. That is 200lbs heavier than the FWD Golf GTi.

 

Just because I'm making payments on the car doesn't mean I have no disposable income.

 

Stock for stock, I suspect the Focus will be faster. It's not like the Evo came with ****ty tires anyways. The Yokohamas that came stock on the Evo IXs were known for their stickiness, and poor life span.

What you're talking about is basically outfitting the Evo with 10+ years of research and then "comparing" it to a brand new car with a relatively new engine. How on earth is that a fair comparison?

You either compare them stock, or not at all. Once you start modifying cars, you're naturally going to enter the realm of biasing the comparison one way or the other.

Based on your previous post though, it seems pretty clear you're drinking the Mitsubishi kool-aid. I don't know how someone can say with a straight face that the Evo is the best A to B car in the world, or that the Evo is a faster road car than the GTR, unless you're comparing heavily modified Evos to bone stock cars that have superior reliability, luxury, prestige, etc.

 

When I read old threads speculating performance of the VIII, IX, and Xs, before they came out....everyone was so far off, it was comical. LOL
We all could be very far off again.
I could see this car matching the ct9a due to it's tech and added power to offset the weight.
But that would mean it'll eat it's fair share of tires too.
We'll see. I'm stoked.