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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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The Evo 8 RS, perhaps the lightest of what the USA got, was approx 318X lbs.
People have weighed their stock USDM 8 RS at 3080 lbs. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ference-4.html

Much of the added USDM weight came from the heavy steel crash beams front and rear (which many people removed and replaced with the JDM light weight versions). From my understanding those steel crashed beams were added to avoid low speed impact damage to the front intercooler.

So even at 3080 vs. 3460, that is a 380lb difference.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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I'm not going to argue with your one data point vs. my many. I'm also not going to argue around one presented data point with zero information around if the things like spare,tools, etc where removed.

I'm having a conversation around production cars as they are sold without anything removed, with fuel and fluids that allows the car to run.

Even 3080 lbs is not 2900 lbs. I have no idea where you pulled that out of. Even then you are arguing about a car with no power windows, no stereo, no sound deadening, basically a stripper to a base car that has power everything, stereo with touchscreen, larger wheels, etc. Let's at least try to do somewhat comparable comparisons. Or you can just cling on to your single data point. That's cool too.

It's fine if you want to keep shifting things to align to whatever point you are trying to make. I'm just not going to be a part of it.

How about the Evo 10 that is even heavier and is proven to be very capable? Shall we continue to deflect that data point?

Oh joy, internetz.

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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
People have weighed their stock USDM 8 RS at 3080 lbs. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ference-4.html

Much of the added USDM weight came from the heavy steel crash beams front and rear (which many people removed and replaced with the JDM light weight versions). From my understanding those steel crashed beams were added to avoid low speed impact damage to the front intercooler.

So even at 3080 vs. 3460, that is a 380lb difference.
You're tilting results. What percentage of all CT9As are RS? 5% max?
There are no 03 RS in the USA; we didn't get the car until 2004.
The median curb weight of a CT9A is just under 3300#. That's 150 lbs. on average less than the Focus.

I don't want a Focus RS, don't expect all Evo owners to convert either, but its curb weight isn't the reason.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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EDIT: My 2004 RS was 3080 lbs (on several different sets of racing scales) _stock_
I provided a link to someone on this forum who actually weighed their car stock. I don't see any reason to doubt his results.

To me, the Focus RS is heavier than it should be. Maybe its light in your eyes.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Even 3080 lbs is not 2900 lbs. I have no idea where you pulled that out of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsub...ncer_Evolution
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I provided a link to someone on this forum who actually weighed their car stock. I don't see any reason to doubt his results.

To me, the Focus RS is heavier than it should be. Maybe its light in your eyes.
You didn't see the two links I provided with multiple weighed evos, with photos and data?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:53 AM
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A wiki link?

Alright I am totally out of this argument with you now. Internet won!
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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DING DING ROUND TWO GOES to the internet =[
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 11:57 AM
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Corner scales from real cars in the ground in the USA that I weighed myself. Not internet hype.
https://www.evolutionm.net/articles/...year-old-icon/
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Corner scales from real cars in the ground in the USA that I weighed myself. Not internet hype.
https://www.evolutionm.net/articles/...year-old-icon/
Cool you actually weighed the Evo 6 GSR, with only a 1/4 tank of fuel and it came in at 3041 lbs?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:09 PM
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I have never weighed an 8/9 myself (but I have removed the steel front and rear crash beams from a IX and replaced them with tubular replacements at a considerable weight savings). So I can only go off what is listed on the internet. Just like the internet is telling us the Focus RS is 3460 lbs., we have to take it on faith until we see info to the contrary.

If the wiki page is incorrect so be it. But none of you have posted any weights for an 8/9RS that either you or someone reliable has weighed. I am not surprised that an IX SSL weighs 3352.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
But none of you have posted any weights for an 8/9RS that either you or someone reliable has weighed. .
Incorrect, you just failed to see that in my post earlier.

Originally Posted by razorlab
The Evo 8 RS, perhaps the lightest of what the USA got, was approx 318X lbs.

*snip*
blah blah blah blah blah blah
*snip*

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...evoweights.htm

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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Incorrect, you just failed to see that in my post earlier.
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...evoweights.htm
comes up as This webpage is not available

Have a working link?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...evoweights.htm
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:36 PM
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I'll be honest I was really digging the RS when news started coming out but, more and more I'm not sure it will be "special" enough for me to seriously consider owning one.

I'd rather it cost $3-5K more and have the flared fenders, thinner glass, limited slip front dif, aluminum suspension, limited production, etc... than them take this budget approach where really the only big expensive change they've made is adding AWD and some HP.
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