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Is it sad that I could care less about it? They stopped making my supras color too so that would only further steer me away. However I am interested in seeing what the new gray looks like.
But I suspect the manual option is going to be wildly popular among the average buyer.
Originally Posted by lv05evo
The last rumor yet to come to fruition is the M engine in a supra.
If that was in the cards and BMW would allow it at all, I suspect they'd hold this one back until they really needed something to boost sales or fend off competition. The MT option should boost sales for 2023 and keep the potential Nissan Z buyers interested. They probably want to keep something in their back pocket for the next time they need to make the new models more interesting again.
Last edited by Construct; Apr 21, 2022 at 08:13 AM.
I don't think you can go wrong with either trans. I'm curious to see what the power limit is on the auto trans. I know in older BMW platforms the manuals are able to hold significantly more power from the factory.
I don't think you can go wrong with either trans. I'm curious to see what the power limit is on the auto trans. I know in older BMW platforms the manuals are able to hold significantly more power from the factory.
They start slipping around 600wtq. Something I will never see. Pure does internal upgrades.
Did my second fully dry track day in the Supra this last weekend. First time to Pocono Raceway in PA which is normally a Nascar triangle track but they also have multiple configs of a road course in the infield that also uses part of the Nascar track. Depending on the config, you can hit some high top speeds.
This last weekend was the combo of the north and south track configs which make it the "mega" track at 2.5 miles:
This was the first event where I felt I was a bit down on power with stock Supra power. There was a 911 turbo that just annihilated me as I was setting up to pass him coming into the main "straight":
Given that this was only my second track day in the dry with the Supra, I am still getting used to the car, however I am feeling much more comfortable in it now. The lateral grip this thing has is pretty astounding, way more than my Evos ever had. I also used to think my Evos turned in well but this thing is a whole other level. That said, the car still feels like it wants to kill me sometimes so I'm taking my time coming up to speed, so I'm still kinda slow in the car. Need more seat time, I'll be at New Jersey Motorsports park this weekend.
Btw, I explored using the curbing a bunch this event to get a feel for how the suspension was setup. The MCS coilovers deal with curbing better than any suspension setup I have ever had. Very impressed.
For now, here is some footage of a couple laps in the Supra at Pocono:
Bryan,
So you would recommend the MCS for a track car, but is it better than Ohlins for a mostly street car. Is the higher cost and complexity worth it for a mostly street car?
Bryan,
So you would recommend the MCS for a track car, but is it better than Ohlins for a mostly street car. Is the higher cost and complexity worth it for a mostly street car?
If it's mostly a street car I would recommend the Ohlins over the MCS purely for the cost/performance difference. Coilovers are kinda like wine and hi-fi audio equipment. The leap from mid range to high end is a ton more money but the performance is not exponential with the cost.
Did my second fully dry track day in the Supra this last weekend. First time to Pocono Raceway in PA which is normally a Nascar triangle track but they also have multiple configs of a road course in the infield that also uses part of the Nascar track. Depending on the config, you can hit some high top speeds.
This last weekend was the combo of the north and south track configs which make it the "mega" track at 2.5 miles:
This was the first event where I felt I was a bit down on power with stock Supra power. There was a 911 turbo that just annihilated me as I was setting up to pass him coming into the main "straight":
Given that this was only my second track day in the dry with the Supra, I am still getting used to the car, however I am feeling much more comfortable in it now. The lateral grip this thing has is pretty astounding, way more than my Evos ever had. I also used to think my Evos turned in well but this thing is a whole other level. That said, the car still feels like it wants to kill me sometimes so I'm taking my time coming up to speed, so I'm still kinda slow in the car. Need more seat time, I'll be at New Jersey Motorsports park this weekend.
Btw, I explored using the curbing a bunch this event to get a feel for how the suspension was setup. The MCS coilovers deal with curbing better than any suspension setup I have ever had. Very impressed.
For now, here is some footage of a couple laps in the Supra at Pocono:
Bryan, do you see yourself staying close to stock power or are you looking to do bolt-ons and a tune at some point? I know the 2021+ Supras are trickier to tune but I'm assuming the temptation might be too much to not do a basic tune .
Bryan, do you see yourself staying close to stock power or are you looking to do bolt-ons and a tune at some point? I know the 2021+ Supras are trickier to tune but I'm assuming the temptation might be too much to not do a basic tune .
Yes. I have a downpipe and BM3 flash that I bought late last year ready to go whenever I am. I've been enjoying the no stress of a stock ECU while I get used to the car. I'll upgrade once I can drive the car 100% with the traction control fully off at stock power.
Although I have to admit the urge to at least flash the ECU after getting annihilated by that 911 turbo. :P
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