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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 01:32 PM
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..but the other car is so bad *** and I can take a chica out on a date in it
You can take a date out in an ACR Viper?

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I'd rather be using that money to PPF the original color. But I guess it's more or less the same, either way. If you wrap it, then you have a ton of options, so that's a plus.
Full car wrap is usually under $4k. Full car PPF is normally $7-10k+. But I don't think I'd ever PPF an entire car. If you ever have to get body panels resprayed expect to pay about half of what the PPF cost to get it removed, body shops hate removing PPF. It really is a pain, and if it's on old paint there's always a chance of it removing the paint when it comes off.


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This is probably the best looking Supra I've seen to date. The wing really compliments the body lines IMO. I always thought the rear was missing something to tie it together and that looks great.
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
I'd rather be using that money to PPF the original color. But I guess it's more or less the same, either way. If you wrap it, then you have a ton of options, so that's a plus.
If I had the color I wanted, it would be PPF on the front and Ceramic the whole thing. Which is what we just had done on my Wife's new X5.


Funny enough it has a B58 and a ZF 8 speed in it as well. You could maybe think of it as the Supra's thicc German cousin. Extra Junk in the trunk since it's a PHEV.

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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 03:44 PM
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How do I unsubscribe from this? I feel my mind being manipulated. What was that movie with KeanuReeves where you wipe your memory out?
I find this thread disturbing.....
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 03:56 PM
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I just realized the Supra also gets better fuel economy than the GT86 lolol

As far as colors, by and far my number one choice would be the 21 Refraction Blue, with grey and white in distance 2nd and 3rd.

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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 05:31 PM
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How do I unsubscribe from this? I feel my mind being manipulated. What was that movie with KeanuReeves where you wipe your memory out?
I find this thread disturbing.....
As us Evo owners get older, we tend to venture to the dark side.... I am just an influence on it since I already went through and sealed the deal haha.

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I just realized the Supra also gets better fuel economy than the GT86 lolol

As far as colors, by and far my number one choice would be the 21 Refraction Blue, with grey and white in distance 2nd and 3rd.
Yes the fuel economy is crazy! I average 21mpg. My drive is 90% stop and go traffic. Evo in the same situation got 14. My Cobalt averages 20. I just filled up the Supra tonight and based on my calculations, I got 27mpg! That was about 200 highway miles and 100 around town in the stop and go traffic.

I didn't like the blue at first but it's growing on me. Also the most rare color....
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 05:48 PM
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I actually think Phantom Grey is the rarest
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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I actually think Phantom Grey is the rarest
I would love it if they released a color count of what was sold per year. I think refraction is going to be a 1 year only color. You can still get phantom. If it is not the most rare already, it will be.
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 07:07 PM
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You can take a date out in an ACR Viper?
I've never considered a Viper. Would be a great track vehicle, though.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 02:31 PM
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My Supra has arrived! Of course, I wasted no time with the ECU...



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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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Very nice! Please tell me you took it out and tore up the roads before you bumped the boost up.

Edit - can you answer a question for me since you can read out the ecu? Do you see anything that says to run a 14.5 afr in 1-3rd gear (under full load) then richen up as you keep shifting?

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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 06:57 AM
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Very nice! Please tell me you took it out and tore up the roads before you bumped the boost up.
I didn't flash it yet. I was just licensing the ECU so I could look at all the fun tuning tables.

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Edit - can you answer a question for me since you can read out the ecu? Do you see anything that says to run a 14.5 afr in 1-3rd gear (under full load) then richen up as you keep shifting?
Yup, most modern DI cars run stoich in boost and under WOT. They have enrichment after time based on catalyst and EGT temp. So you will find the car starts richening up the longer you are in WOT.

I took a look at the target WOT lambda tables and they do target 1.0 lambda until higher rpm where they have slightly richer targets. Then of course, if you are in WOT for longer, the enrichment starts happening overall.

Here are the two target tables:




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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 09:13 AM
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Perfect! Thank you. That is exactly the info I was looking for. Cant wait for that software to work on my car....
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 09:58 AM
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Took the Supra out during lunch.

I need to remember not to take traction control off fully in 45* weather. I got the whole car sideways and almost went into a tree... welcome to RWD I guess! Hahah

That said, the throttle on this thing is like a light switch. That will be the first thing I will be tuning when I tune the car, make that thing feel more linear.
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Took the Supra out during lunch.

I need to remember not to take traction control off fully in 45* weather. I got the whole car sideways and almost went into a tree... welcome to RWD I guess! Hahah

That said, the throttle on this thing is like a light switch. That will be the first thing I will be tuning when I tune the car, make that thing feel more linear.
If you put it in Sport mode, the throttle does get super touchy. Under the I-drive menu, go to vehicle settings, configure sport individual and set the engine to normal. It greatly helps the throttle response. When you end up coding in sport plus, I can guarantee you will hate the throttle response on sport plus. Its like 25% throttle is 100%. Ohh and get some real tires.....
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks
If you put it in Sport mode, the throttle does get super touchy. Under the I-drive menu, go to vehicle settings, configure sport individual and set the engine to normal. It greatly helps the throttle response. When you end up coding in sport plus, I can guarantee you will hate the throttle response on sport plus. Its like 25% throttle is 100%. Ohh and get some real tires.....
Will get real tires once warmer weather comes again. What else does Sport Plus do? I feel like sport mode is already a bit synthetic overall.
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