Mk V Supra - My Evo's Replacement?
They weren't doing so hot until this event in the rain. Before they where in the upper teens as far as standings at the road courses. This one they where in the top 10.
Kind of amazing too since they are on A052's. I'm amazed anyone picked A052's for this event. Def have to be good about tire management.
Kind of amazing too since they are on A052's. I'm amazed anyone picked A052's for this event. Def have to be good about tire management.
if you take a look at the youtube video I posted above, and navigate to that channel, it has all sorts of videos about the s2k.
For those who have driven both, how similar is the 135i to the Supra in terms of steering feel and handling?
Just trying to understand how much BMW has changed since late 2000s because the 135's steering and chassis was not anything special. My evo X was a lot more fun to drive. The 135i is the only BMW I've owned and has stopped me from looking at their current cars and Toyota's derivative. Maybe skipping over the Supra because of this past experience is a mistake?
Just trying to understand how much BMW has changed since late 2000s because the 135's steering and chassis was not anything special. My evo X was a lot more fun to drive. The 135i is the only BMW I've owned and has stopped me from looking at their current cars and Toyota's derivative. Maybe skipping over the Supra because of this past experience is a mistake?
For those who have driven both, how similar is the 135i to the Supra in terms of steering feel and handling?
Just trying to understand how much BMW has changed since late 2000s because the 135's steering and chassis was not anything special. My evo X was a lot more fun to drive. The 135i is the only BMW I've owned and has stopped me from looking at their current cars and Toyota's derivative. Maybe skipping over the Supra because of this past experience is a mistake?
Just trying to understand how much BMW has changed since late 2000s because the 135's steering and chassis was not anything special. My evo X was a lot more fun to drive. The 135i is the only BMW I've owned and has stopped me from looking at their current cars and Toyota's derivative. Maybe skipping over the Supra because of this past experience is a mistake?
First session in my new car, kept TC on. My car is way, way, way too conservative. I hear you on the
coasting thing. It was horrible.
It cut in, I instinctively gave the car more gas pedal.... Nothing. Made it feel even worse.
Full throttle, Civic acceleration.
Turned it off, car only broke traction once. I was like
coasting thing. It was horrible.
It cut in, I instinctively gave the car more gas pedal.... Nothing. Made it feel even worse.
Full throttle, Civic acceleration.
Turned it off, car only broke traction once. I was like
A few years ago, I took a 2017 Camaro 1LE to VIR and did my first session with the TC on. The car felt really numb, though I never really felt the TC "kick in." My next session, I turned it off and suddenly it responded like a normal car and was much more fun to drive. It was looser but in a good way, not a scary way.
While the common wisdom is to recommend that students keep the TC on and then later turn it off when they get more experience, I think it might be better for newbies to build speed with TC off so that they can actually learn their car's handling traits at lower speeds and then work their way up.
It's kind of funny talking to people about my 04 Evo RS at track days. Everyone thinks the car has a bunch of electronic wizardry like a new GT-R and are shocked when they find out that it doesn't have TC or even ABS.
I've had countless conversations where people are stunned to learn that my Evo IX doesn't have traction control or even the fancy AYC diff that they heard about on Top Gear so long ago.
I have yet to do my first track day in my GT350, but I have thought about whether I should keep the traction control fully off from day 1. I'd rather work up speed knowing how the car actually behaves than to build speed with a false sense of dynamics, only to later turn it off and realize that my learned style of driving the car is dependent on the TC.
A few years ago, I took a 2017 Camaro 1LE to VIR and did my first session with the TC on. The car felt really numb, though I never really felt the TC "kick in." My next session, I turned it off and suddenly it responded like a normal car and was much more fun to drive. It was looser but in a good way, not a scary way.
While the common wisdom is to recommend that students keep the TC on and then later turn it off when they get more experience, I think it might be better for newbies to build speed with TC off so that they can actually learn their car's handling traits at lower speeds and then work their way up.
It's kind of funny talking to people about my 04 Evo RS at track days. Everyone thinks the car has a bunch of electronic wizardry like a new GT-R and are shocked when they find out that it doesn't have TC or even ABS.
A few years ago, I took a 2017 Camaro 1LE to VIR and did my first session with the TC on. The car felt really numb, though I never really felt the TC "kick in." My next session, I turned it off and suddenly it responded like a normal car and was much more fun to drive. It was looser but in a good way, not a scary way.
While the common wisdom is to recommend that students keep the TC on and then later turn it off when they get more experience, I think it might be better for newbies to build speed with TC off so that they can actually learn their car's handling traits at lower speeds and then work their way up.
It's kind of funny talking to people about my 04 Evo RS at track days. Everyone thinks the car has a bunch of electronic wizardry like a new GT-R and are shocked when they find out that it doesn't have TC or even ABS.
I have friends that talk about "all my cars electronics" (Evo). I'm like... "You mean ABS?".
If it were truly "active" and adjusting to driving conditions, then yes. Otherwise I don't see it being any different than any other tuned diff. Some say it's worse than mechanical. Either way, I set it and forget it. It doesn't exactly make up for poor driving habits. 
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I keep getting people thinking the ACD has some sort of crazy torque biasing and yaw control. They're always surprised when I explain its just a hydraulic controlled clutch diff thats kinda slow to respond. It does work well, but so does a viscous once you have a good front and rear diff.
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153mph traps in the front straight and low 1:5X's at Thunderhill 😳
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/pee...12#post-197459
153mph traps in the front straight and low 1:5X's at Thunderhill 😳
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/pee...12#post-197459