Tow Rigs, What do you have/use?
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Smike- Great pickup, Im quite jealous! Its also quite funny that you just posted this as I went and test drove a 2006 Cayenne S yesterday. I'm curious as to your thoughts on the vehicle as time progresses.
Currently my evo is my DD but I really need to pick up a 2nd vehicle. As you know with racing things break and continually stealing my brother's wrangler isn't exactly sustainable. But hey he lives in the city so he doesnt even need a car!
But anyway I'm looking to pick up something that will make a good daily driver but also has the ability to tow. I love driving my evo everyday so I am not sure I can survive driving a pickup everyday. The Cayenne seemed like a great vehicle that has the practicality but won't bore me to death on a day to day basis.
The first gens are relatively inexpensive but the concerning thing is the cost to maintain the vehicle. I don't want/ I can't have another money pit. That's what my evo is for
I am not a mechanic but have done all the work on my evo so if I can do the work on the Porsche that is a plus. Looks like I will just need to buy some torx bits or whatever those things are.
I would love to hear how it is treating you after you put some miles on the beast. I've been poking around on the Porshce forums and it seems the plastic coolant pipe bursting is a serious issue. I also read about people having issues with their driveshaft which interestingly enough after looking through the Carfax on the vehicle I test drove yesterday @ 70k the driveshaft was replaced.
These are the things that concern me. After all its a 70k truck. Reminds me of the Top Gear episode where Jeremy bought a used CL65 for very little money yet the cost to keep it on the road was astronomical. Like I said I don't want another money pit as its supposed to be my sensible dd. I wish you luck with it and hope that I am lucky enough to also own one in the not so distant future. Please keep us posted with how it's working out for you
Currently my evo is my DD but I really need to pick up a 2nd vehicle. As you know with racing things break and continually stealing my brother's wrangler isn't exactly sustainable. But hey he lives in the city so he doesnt even need a car!
But anyway I'm looking to pick up something that will make a good daily driver but also has the ability to tow. I love driving my evo everyday so I am not sure I can survive driving a pickup everyday. The Cayenne seemed like a great vehicle that has the practicality but won't bore me to death on a day to day basis.
The first gens are relatively inexpensive but the concerning thing is the cost to maintain the vehicle. I don't want/ I can't have another money pit. That's what my evo is for
I am not a mechanic but have done all the work on my evo so if I can do the work on the Porsche that is a plus. Looks like I will just need to buy some torx bits or whatever those things are.
I would love to hear how it is treating you after you put some miles on the beast. I've been poking around on the Porshce forums and it seems the plastic coolant pipe bursting is a serious issue. I also read about people having issues with their driveshaft which interestingly enough after looking through the Carfax on the vehicle I test drove yesterday @ 70k the driveshaft was replaced.
These are the things that concern me. After all its a 70k truck. Reminds me of the Top Gear episode where Jeremy bought a used CL65 for very little money yet the cost to keep it on the road was astronomical. Like I said I don't want another money pit as its supposed to be my sensible dd. I wish you luck with it and hope that I am lucky enough to also own one in the not so distant future. Please keep us posted with how it's working out for you
Those are my requirements too. Tow, doesn't bore me to craziness, and winter able.
From the research I did too and reading the notes of my cars service history. P owners are the high demanding type that do not typically touch their cars. I have comments like "RF window makes too much noise when button is pushed - replaced window motor $500". Lots of items that we not broken but not to the high standard of the last owner.
XZN (triple square) and Torx bits will be need for this car. Otherwise, its just a car.
Coolant pipe is very hit and miss. Not as common as they will make you think online. Also the current gen 958 still uses the same resin pipes. Only the replacement kit is aluminum. And I look at it this way as well - its been 11 years with my Cayenne. 1293812 heat cycles and still good. And parts are $500 for the kit. If you can do a clutch sway on an Evo - you can do this job.
No other issues to report here. Looked under car last weekend and its clean. All shafts, boots, etc are in good condition.
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FWIW. I have been working my entire dealer life with Porsche. I have replaced in the past 7 years close to 100 coolant pipes on cayennes. It is only a matter of time before they crack and leak. Most on the road by now have been updated with the metal pipes. It's still a bear of a job your first time. If it all goes smooth I can have it finished in 2.5 hours.
If you ever need any diagnosis PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
CB
If you ever need any diagnosis PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
CB
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Thanks CB. Any good way to see if I have AL pipes? 2nd owner, although *****ed about a lot of small items, did not have this work done from the work orders I have.
FWIW. I have been working my entire dealer life with Porsche. I have replaced in the past 7 years close to 100 coolant pipes on cayennes. It is only a matter of time before they crack and leak. Most on the road by now have been updated with the metal pipes. It's still a bear of a job your first time. If it all goes smooth I can have it finished in 2.5 hours.
If you ever need any diagnosis PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
CB
If you ever need any diagnosis PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
CB
FWIW. I have been working my entire dealer life with Porsche. I have replaced in the past 7 years close to 100 coolant pipes on cayennes. It is only a matter of time before they crack and leak. Most on the road by now have been updated with the metal pipes. It's still a bear of a job your first time. If it all goes smooth I can have it finished in 2.5 hours.
If you ever need any diagnosis PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
CB
If you ever need any diagnosis PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
CB
And what is this I read about the driveshaft being a wear item and needing to be replaced @ 75K? I thought that was quite strange...
+2 Any quick way to check without digging too deep into the engine?
FYI (Porsche class action settlement for Cayenne coolant pipes):
http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-s...on-settlement/
Get your claims in by December 12th!
http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-s...on-settlement/
Get your claims in by December 12th!
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From: Atlanta, GA
If you know what to look for. You can use a mirror and a flashlight to see behind the intake by the firewall. The new pipes will be aluminum coming out from under the intake in a set of 3 pipes. Just look for 3 hoses (1" diameter) coming out from under the plastic wire loom holder directly behind the intake. Trace those back to the intake and if you see aluminum your good. The plastic pipes are black. It's really hard to describe it without pictures.
Things I have seen "commonly" fail on early cayennes.
1) coolant pipes
2) ignition could crack (they are on their 32nd billionth version lol) these are now covered up to 100k miles
3) rear Cardan shaft center support bearings fail (rear drive shaft). The after market rebuild kits look hokey and I wouldn't recommend that route. But the shafts I've seen from car quest and the like look promising. Of course OEM is the best. Also there is a special tool to align the center bearing when installing the new shaft to prevent premature wear.
4) fuel pumps crap out and lately I've seen more fuel tank cap assemblies (the hats that cover the access ports, which houses the filter and sender) cracking and leaking fuel. Pretty simple repair just make sure the fuel level is low. I hate being elbows deep in fuel fishing lines from the tank.
5) transfer case servo motors. I haven't seen them as much recently as I did a few years back. But they can fail and the cause a AWD warning light on the dash or a random clunk on decel below 25mph. The fix is replacement of the servo motor and the control unit with updated software.
Honestly they are solid cars if properly maintained. The above items are those that good maintenance can't always prevent. Would I own one? Yes! I'm actually looking for one myself. If you can afford a 2006 or newer do it.
Things I have seen "commonly" fail on early cayennes.
1) coolant pipes
2) ignition could crack (they are on their 32nd billionth version lol) these are now covered up to 100k miles
3) rear Cardan shaft center support bearings fail (rear drive shaft). The after market rebuild kits look hokey and I wouldn't recommend that route. But the shafts I've seen from car quest and the like look promising. Of course OEM is the best. Also there is a special tool to align the center bearing when installing the new shaft to prevent premature wear.
4) fuel pumps crap out and lately I've seen more fuel tank cap assemblies (the hats that cover the access ports, which houses the filter and sender) cracking and leaking fuel. Pretty simple repair just make sure the fuel level is low. I hate being elbows deep in fuel fishing lines from the tank.
5) transfer case servo motors. I haven't seen them as much recently as I did a few years back. But they can fail and the cause a AWD warning light on the dash or a random clunk on decel below 25mph. The fix is replacement of the servo motor and the control unit with updated software.
Honestly they are solid cars if properly maintained. The above items are those that good maintenance can't always prevent. Would I own one? Yes! I'm actually looking for one myself. If you can afford a 2006 or newer do it.
The higher maintenance and original purchase costs are a different matter, of course.
Does diesel go up in the winter usually? For me, my truck is my primary winter transportation since my summer cars mostly hibernate. I've been considering replacing my 2500hd (gas) with a used Duramax, but the numbers never seem to add up when I do the math. If diesel is particularly high in winter that makes it even less attractive.
Ive seen diesel stay under $4 a gallon for the last 2.5 years except when it went up to like 4.10 this summer. Gas on the other hand swings from low $3 range in the winter to around $4 in the summer.
Also, Ive noticed that as you get further out in the middle of no where the gap decreases further and on my drive to Packwood washington I see diesel cheaper than regular gas at least once each summer.
Also, Ive noticed that as you get further out in the middle of no where the gap decreases further and on my drive to Packwood washington I see diesel cheaper than regular gas at least once each summer.
yes it is. my f250 was a PSD as well but this one seems on another level.
the trailer is 30' with a 7' interior height .... much bigger and i wont be able to fit in the snowmobile parking lots with it lol!
the trailer is 30' with a 7' interior height .... much bigger and i wont be able to fit in the snowmobile parking lots with it lol!