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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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Just glancing at it, he said raw material cost would likely cost about what your price point is. Then he has to have the shock tower plates machined, and fab the rest. So, it's not realistic. Example- a 12x12x.062" sheet/plate from McMaster Carr is $340. And that's not even thick enough to use for the shock tower plates.
Don't buy Ti from McMaster they have a massive upcharge on it. $500 is a doable price point. I'll try to find some time this week to look into it. Getting a fab guy for it will be the hard part.
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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Don't buy Ti from McMaster they have a massive upcharge on it. $500 is a doable price point. I'll try to find some time this week to look into it. Getting a fab guy for it will be the hard part.
I have a fab guy. Just need to find reasonably price raw materials. Let me know what you find.
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 02:05 PM
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Did you have any issues installing your front brace? The one I bought does not provide clearance for a socket to fit onto some of the strut mounting nuts. I can barely get the nuts on by hand, and it's difficult to get a wrench on them
Yeah a little. I haven't spent the time trying to trim away a little from that location for the socket. I usually can get the socket on there a little cockeyed without damaging the bolt yet enough so that I can get sufficient torque.
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 02:10 PM
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Regarding having one made, I think it would sell given the interest in this bar which is no longer made and the premium they fetch now as such. From my previous photos, the front and rear Ti bars together are 3lbs lighter than just the OEM front steel bar. So probably more a little more than 5lbs in weight savings.
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 02:24 PM
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A Cusco Ti popped up on here like a year ago but it was a scam. Sucks bc that thing is beautiful and also stupid light! I ended up buying a Carbing AL strut bar and was told it only weighed a couple lbs. Sadly once receiving it I realized that was a lie. My scale says the stock bar weighs in at 7.2# and the Carbing is 5.8# so the cost/# wasnt that impressive.
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 02:48 PM
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These are the guys to look at for Titanium tubing. Looks like 3al is pretty cheap in the thin wall 0.75". Like $2/ft but Im not sure what wall would be needed here. Plate on the other hand, that stuff seems very spendy. Maybe looking at different grades would help but so far I havent spent too much time to figure out whats needed.

https://www.tigertitanium.com/storek/Tube/3Al-2.5V
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
These are the guys to look at for Titanium tubing. Looks like 3al is pretty cheap in the thin wall 0.75". Like $2/ft but Im not sure what wall would be needed here. Plate on the other hand, that stuff seems very spendy. Maybe looking at different grades would help but so far I havent spent too much time to figure out whats needed.

https://www.tigertitanium.com/storek/Tube/3Al-2.5V
.75x.065" is $2 per..... INCH....lol

AN 1/8" sheet sized to 6 top plates for 3 bars is $380 6AL-4V (Grade 5)...

Based on that alone, we're prob at $300 per bar just in materials and rough guess on having the top plates water jet cut. Not to mention the vertical pieces that need welded on. I'm not sure 1/8 for the top plate is even thick enough. Not familiar with Ti. But I see these easily over shooting a $600 price point.

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 03:22 PM
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Well they were made for like $300ea originally, how were they making a profit on them then?

Could also think about doing just the tubes in TI and maybe a bolted socked in Alum for the 3 chassis mount spots.
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 07:17 PM
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Well they were made for like $300ea originally, how were they making a profit on them then?

Could also think about doing just the tubes in TI and maybe a bolted socked in Alum for the 3 chassis mount spots.
Mass production does wonders... They likely ordered bulk Ti for other parts as well.

Should we move this elsewhere to not keep derailing Marc's thread? Lol

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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 06:55 AM
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Have you guys checked out Ticon Industries? They seam to have much better pricing on titanium. I've contemplated making Ti strut bars but didn't think there would be enough of a demand to justify it..
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Mass production does wonders... They likely ordered bulk Ti for other parts as well.

Should we move this elsewhere to not keep derailing Marc's thread? Lol
Good call. Sorry Marc.

New thread for Ti discussions goes here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/mo...l#post11875778
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 07:12 PM
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Buttoned up the PS lines today.







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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 08:21 PM
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Couple other little things I forgot to share. I cut out a piece of alum on the fenders which was otherwise preventing air egressing the front wheel wells. Also Austin, via Dallas had a gauge panel 3d printed for my double din. So gauges are next on the agenda. Also another pic of the Dogo just for fun.



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Old Jun 18, 2019 | 10:12 AM
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Clean build. I enjoy the attention to detail
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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Splitter is basically done. Need to make a few little tweaks but shes solid. Car is gonna take a long nap until i get out of this house and moved down to my new house (sad face). But im not giving up, will get her to some tracks and keep wrenching as time permits.


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