Utah Evos
Originally Posted by jid2
Scott wants both.
I wish all these alignment talks would have started earlier, my car is down in Springville at the alignment shop as we speak. The group of "import" guys down in Orem where I live all use this guy. But I would have just brought it to you Ray had I put 2&2 together.
What type of specs would you suggest? I'm having it set back to stock, 0 toe in the front, 3 mm of toe-in at the rear, and -1 degree of camber front and rear. Currently my car wears the front, inside edges of the tires like a banshee. I'm sure the fronts have toe out. Hopefully I'll have even wear now.
I want my car to handle fairly neutral, with just a tad of understeer built in. I come from a rally-car background and usually left-foot brake to balance the car and loosen the back end.
I wish all these alignment talks would have started earlier, my car is down in Springville at the alignment shop as we speak. The group of "import" guys down in Orem where I live all use this guy. But I would have just brought it to you Ray had I put 2&2 together.
What type of specs would you suggest? I'm having it set back to stock, 0 toe in the front, 3 mm of toe-in at the rear, and -1 degree of camber front and rear. Currently my car wears the front, inside edges of the tires like a banshee. I'm sure the fronts have toe out. Hopefully I'll have even wear now.
I want my car to handle fairly neutral, with just a tad of understeer built in. I come from a rally-car background and usually left-foot brake to balance the car and loosen the back end.
if you want some understeer you'll need more negative camber in the back. with the back set at -1 degree you're creating some oversteer vs stock.
Originally Posted by vtsnake
sounds good! i rather do it your way then. i'm not into cheating. yes we have air tools. the shop is big and heated. it's not some small garage or anything. so i'm in if you're in. how's this saturday sound? cams my car, alignment your car. 
According to the service manual, -1 degree of camber is stock for the front and rear.
Also, do you think its possible that the car was set at 0 toe and that was causing the wear, which would mean that i do need toe in at the front as well.
Also, do you think its possible that the car was set at 0 toe and that was causing the wear, which would mean that i do need toe in at the front as well.
Originally Posted by scott88vr6
I want both.....but I am debating on coilovers, because every car that I have owned and put springs on, the shocks end up going within the year. I don't know if these will do that or not. I don't want that to happen.
Originally Posted by silverofs
i work on saturdays! so only sundays & mondays are good for me unless we did it after 6 on the weekdays!! just let me know. i did mine after work one day & was done by 10-10:30. also i may be busy this weekend if my turbo kit comes in if ya know what i mean. i'm just not sure when it will be here so let's just set up a time & we can work around that.
sunday will be fine. but i also can do it on a weekday night if that's the only way for you. i rather do it on a sunday so we have more time and won't feel so rushed. also we can do your alignment the same day if we do it on sunday, well unless your car is down. just let me know what is best for you. i'll work around your schedule.
Originally Posted by vtsnake
coilovers are the only way to go. plenty of adjustibility to set it where you like. don't settle on anything but jic's. i know them very well.
Originally Posted by jid2
According to the service manual, -1 degree of camber is stock for the front and rear.
Also, do you think its possible that the car was set at 0 toe and that was causing the wear, which would mean that i do need toe in at the front as well.
Also, do you think its possible that the car was set at 0 toe and that was causing the wear, which would mean that i do need toe in at the front as well.
anyway to help you out i would need to know how you drive and also see where your car is setup currently and also how your tires have worn. this is the only way i can fix your wear problem. most alignment shops set it up for normal driving to help tire wear. if they did that for me, my tires would wear like crap.
sunday is good for me!! rob might not come on sunday because he is lsd..lol i will just talk to you later this week to set everything up.. i'm going to buy tires today any suggestions???
Originally Posted by scott88vr6
What model JIC's?
Anyway I can get in for an Alignment this weekend. I have 8,000 miles on mine and the tires are bald as hell on the inside. Mitsu checked the alignment, gave me new tires/new alignment because it was off. Another 5,000 miles and bam.......tires are bald as hell again on the inside? I drive like a grandma if that helps for driving style. LOL!
Last edited by scott88vr6; Jan 10, 2005 at 09:50 AM.
Originally Posted by silverofs
sunday is good for me!! rob might not come on sunday because he is lsd..lol i will just talk to you later this week to set everything up.. i'm going to buy tires today any suggestions???
cool sunday it is! let me know what time. the earlier the better but after 10am
btw, save your old tires and mark them where they came off. this is very important. i need to see how they wore and which wheels they came off of to be able to help set your alignment. which means you'll need to bring them sunday so i can look at them.
Ray, are those the same JICs that I have...if so, scott, they're the greatest ever and I've had them for what like 5 months including 2 days of track racing with no problems, they creak a little when they're cold and I'm going at low speed, but who cares! The adjustable part is cool, cuz even if you have no freakin clue, you can always give Ray a call since he knows them so well and say "hey Ray, my car is doing.......how can I make it do.....instead" and he'll know. Correction, I NEVER did ANY racing in my Evo, it's a friend's silver STi.
Originally Posted by jid2
Since I drive my car to work everyday from Orem to Salt Lake most of my driving is in a straight line.
well then if you want your tires to wear evenly, less negative cameber as possible. if all you can get is -1 degree i would have them set the toe (frt and rear) at 1/8" toe in. this will help with inside tire wear.