Bring your own financing and watch their smiles turn in to frowns and they treat you like **** the rest of the process.

 

What dealer would be best to deal with in SoCal?

 

Have production of the northamerican ralliart started?

 

Option or any suby fan here, the 02-07 wrx had variable valve timing?
The 08 has active valve control, it means VVT on both the intake and the exhaust valves?

 

I am sick of watching the X-games and seeing commercial after commercial for the WRX and STi

 

haha atleast your sick of tired of that comercial. Me Im sick of tired of waiting of ralliart, after the WRX 09 new upgrades introduction that made me think that Ralliart is not worth the wait anymore. Even the price is alittle bit crazy. So i just go ahead and bought the Mazdaspeed3, I know its not AWD but heck its more faster than Ralliart, and its 4k usd cheaper too! . But still keep my old lancer Oz rally, I still love that car.

 

I'm seriously thinking about the MS3 as well...

 

Go ahead and test drive it. For me I like the handling alot, I did compare it with WRX test drive, Lancer GTS and alot of other cars. For me the MS3 has some serious horses and handling. I love the 3rd gear, thats when that car start becoming a Beast! To be honest I was really impressed on the handling for being a FWD. And I got it 24k out of the door so far.

 

Yes, all turbo subaru engines have AVCS ( Active Valve Control System)

the 2008 STI was the first to get DAVCS ( Dual Active Valve Control System) for both intake and exhaust valves.

 

Well all of X Games Rally cars were subaru except that one evo that flipped.....

 

I see tons of Mazda3's on the road. MS3 not so much. I'm trying to get into some kind of dual clutch tranny for my next car. Which does make the choice tougher.

 

Yeh bang for buck great choice but its ugly and just does not have that cool appeal to it...

 

the car is supposed to be coming out next month of course they have started production. unless they're going to throw in a better intake an exhaust i doubt mitsu will be making any "tweaks" a month before the car launches.

 

Yes, currently they are all at railheads and waiting in a parking lot covered in white tape awaiting delivery to dealerships.

They arent going to change anything on the car simply cuz subaru 1-uped them on the new WRX.

 

True and if they were smart they would lower the price... but we all know they would rather die than do that...