updated wrx... what does this mean for the ralliart
Here's Buschur's take on it http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ht=Buschur+WRX.
The tires aren't cruddy (they are dedicated summers after all), they just get overloaded since the cars weighs so much. I think with wider tires (say 225 or 235) and a diet, the Ralliart could post some good numbers but Mitsubishi's decision to use the GTS fenders seriously limits what you can do without rolling. Hell, the stock Evo tires would be pushing it and they're only 245s.
Well to run wider tires you'd need wider rims and you'd need to source different tires that cost more. I think the Ralliart uses the same wheels as the GTS but I'm not completely sure. There are other reasons not to go to a wider tire as well, they track the road more and they can hurt steering feel. They're clearly better than all-seasons so it could be worse.
S-AWC off or complete off./hold for 3 sec/
That is all you can play with. If you not familiar with the Evo drive train.
And you know in the subaru have more adjustment or not?
And they are far away from identical for adjustments at least.
the sti do not respond better then the X. Fact.
But they have to sell , because it is done by big time vs evo.
Also they can say anything the track times are hugely evo favors vs STI, another fact.
Other fact without opening the engine up the AMS testing a turbokit for the X, and it makes over 500 whp. No meth and anything.
When the STI engine handle without opening the engine up 500 whp+ , let me ask you?
Read between the lines, and skipp the marketing.
But they have to sell , because it is done by big time vs evo.
Also they can say anything the track times are hugely evo favors vs STI, another fact.
Other fact without opening the engine up the AMS testing a turbokit for the X, and it makes over 500 whp. No meth and anything.
When the STI engine handle without opening the engine up 500 whp+ , let me ask you?
Read between the lines, and skipp the marketing.
you have tarmac -snow - gravel
S-AWC off or complete off./hold for 3 sec/
That is all you can play with. If you not familiar with the Evo drive train.
And you know in the subaru have more adjustment or not?
And they are far away from identical for adjustments at least.
S-AWC off or complete off./hold for 3 sec/
That is all you can play with. If you not familiar with the Evo drive train.
And you know in the subaru have more adjustment or not?
And they are far away from identical for adjustments at least.
the sti do not respond better then the X. Fact.
But they have to sell , because it is done by big time vs evo.
Also they can say anything the track times are hugely evo favors vs STI, another fact.
Other fact without opening the engine up the AMS testing a turbokit for the X, and it makes over 500 whp. No meth and anything.
When the STI engine handle without opening the engine up 500 whp+ , let me ask you?
Read between the lines, and skipp the marketing.
But they have to sell , because it is done by big time vs evo.
Also they can say anything the track times are hugely evo favors vs STI, another fact.
Other fact without opening the engine up the AMS testing a turbokit for the X, and it makes over 500 whp. No meth and anything.
When the STI engine handle without opening the engine up 500 whp+ , let me ask you?
Read between the lines, and skipp the marketing.
You can check out NASIOC if you want to see what the STI can handle. More importantly, how many people are going to be pushing 500 whp?
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I would hardly call the WRX an american style car. It's not like they bumped the power way up there or made it unbearably stiff, they simply made it competitive. Power wise it's nearly identical to the Ralliart and I would bet the spring rates and valving are similar as well. The WRX is simply lighter. Neither will be especially great daily drivers as the fuel economy will suck, you're kidding yourself if you think it's a wise choice in that sense or even a smart choice as far as comfort is concerned. I'm lucky to get 550 KM to a 60 L tank (roughly 19 MPG) and I do mostly highway driving.
The WRX has one differential to the Ralliart's three correct...yes. The WRX rolls with a normal 5-speed while the Ralliart gets the EVO MR's tc-sst correct....yes. No matter what you do with a WRX you will never get these features unless you spend $$$ money. Daily driver is meant to be a comfortable car for daily commute. Even if they share the same ride stiffness you don't have to use your left foot in the Ralliart in stop and go traffic you are already one up in the Ralliart. Fuel mileage is irrelevant as a 335i isn't exactly frugal but is a pleasant daily driver. Fuel mileage has nothing to do with the equation or everyone would drive Honda Fits or Smart cars.
Last edited by heavyD; Aug 24, 2008 at 07:07 PM.
Again, feel free to argue with AMS and Buschur since both tuners feel differently and have the sheets to back it up. Also, I would trust the word of AMS over the word of someone who has nothing to back it up.
You can check out NASIOC if you want to see what the STI can handle. More importantly, how many people are going to be pushing 500 whp?
You can check out NASIOC if you want to see what the STI can handle. More importantly, how many people are going to be pushing 500 whp?
By the way, those numbers are they word not mine...so not me the one who have to back it up
You brought them up, not me, anyway. / AMS/I say what they wrote. As you do
I just pick the important ones. I don't care the downpipe vs downpipe race
as an example.Also, and most importantly, you kinda skip the question, it does make the 08 STI engine over 500 whp without opening the engine?
the evo is plane and simple the STI can be confusing. Fact.