MAP EF-series Turbochargers results thread
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but the air that the MAF things is going to your IM is being leaked out of the DV and getting put back in before the turbo to be recycled. it never really made it.
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Indeed, but the turbo is reusing the air that got by the DV, so less air is going through the MAF at that moment.
my rule of thumb for estimated horsepower is your injector cc/2. I make it a bit less for safety. for example, I am at 390whp on 1050s but limited to crappy 91oct. I have more injector left and can check the IDC, if you're curious.
Using that math, 780/2 = 390whp safely. If you're gas is better than CA 91, then you should make a bit more.
Using that math, 780/2 = 390whp safely. If you're gas is better than CA 91, then you should make a bit more.
Fixed any possible fuel issues. Upgrading to FIC 1050 injectors Kevin has on hand, so I should be able to make pretty good power I assume? On MAP's website they had an EVO 8 with similar mods, but with O2 dump and cams and made 446hp on their mustang dyno, so I figure with a megan O2 housing on a IX motor with all other mods the same, I should be able to do 400-420 on a mustang, or 450-460ish on a dynojet. Or is that being too optimistic?
That seems a bit much for 450whp dynojet on 93. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. E85 isn't an option, cams aren't worth it, and neither is ditching the cat. A test pipe over this cat would yield me another 3whp, and I was told that at my mod level cams wouldn't do that that much more anyway. Not worth the price for another 10whp. E85 would make more power, but it's too big of a hassle, and I don't know where to find it out here.
That seems a bit much for 450whp dynojet on 93. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. E85 isn't an option, cams aren't worth it, and neither is ditching the cat. A test pipe over this cat would yield me another 3whp, and I was told that at my mod level cams wouldn't do that that much more anyway. Not worth the price for another 10whp. E85 would make more power, but it's too big of a hassle, and I don't know where to find it out here.
sounds like you have it figured out then
Last edited by kaj; May 20, 2014 at 03:12 PM.
sounds like you have it figured out then
. my mild cams gave me a 30ish whp bump but that's on a mostly-stock setup. i've never used 93 oct, but you are shooting for 60whp more than i'm making on 91, but using a less aggressive setup. if you made 450whp on that setup, i'd be seriously impressed. that would be amazing. good luck, man and post the results! i may let my tuner talk me into that extra 2psi he was asking for LOL
Are you sure you are talking dynojet numbers though? I know I can't hit 450whp on a mustang, but my tuner said I should make around 410-420whp on their mustang, which would put me at around 460-470whp dynojet.
I don't think you guys are talking apples to apples.
aka, you are not talking the same dynos.
I don't even remember what turbo you are talking about, but most of the EF turbos can hit 450whp on a dynojet easy.
aka, you are not talking the same dynos.
I don't even remember what turbo you are talking about, but most of the EF turbos can hit 450whp on a dynojet easy.
yes, sir.
ef2.5 with a few bolts-ons, a HFC, and 93oct.
ef2.5 with a few bolts-ons, a HFC, and 93oct.
MAP EF2.5 turbo
ETS intake
ETS upper IC pipe
ETS lower IC pipe
ETS 3" Widetank IC
Stock IX BOV
Sparktech COP
Forge WGA
Megan 02 housing
Megan 3" dp
Mil.spec 100 cell race cat
HKS Carbon Ti exhaust
EGR delete
Grimmspeed 3port
Ported stock turbo manifold
FIC 1050 injectors
Walbro 255
ARP headstuds
Evolution Dynamics Stage 1 fully built motor (Manely rods, JE pistons, ACL race main and rod bearings, balance shaft delete, other crap, etc, good for 600whp)
93 octane
I'd call that more than "just a few bolt ons" lol the only thing I don't have is cams, and at the current mod level and tune before the rebuild, I was told cams wouldn't make a very big difference, especially for the price, so I got the ported manifold instead.
Last edited by ODUB; May 22, 2014 at 08:40 AM.
Not sure why you were told cams won't make a big difference?? I make 450/350 (Evo 8) dynojet with an ef3 toxic fab manifild, o2 dump, and s2s with other supporting mods of course on 92 octane. I think you may fall a tad short of your goal of 450 without cams but I could be very wrong. I'm just giving my .02..
Also cams are more then just 10hp up top they broaden the entire power band just with s2s my buddy's IX picked up 40ish in the middle of the power band and another 15 up top with a much smoother power band. Ppl forget its not always peak HP gains you have to look at how it can improve the power band as a whole
Also cams are more then just 10hp up top they broaden the entire power band just with s2s my buddy's IX picked up 40ish in the middle of the power band and another 15 up top with a much smoother power band. Ppl forget its not always peak HP gains you have to look at how it can improve the power band as a whole
Last edited by DsmGuy86; May 22, 2014 at 09:39 AM.
Not sure why you were told cams won't make a big difference?? I make 450/350 (Evo 8) dynojet with an ef3 toxic fab manifild, o2 dump, and s2s with other supporting mods of course on 92 octane. I think you may fall a tad short of your goal of 450 without cams but I could be very wrong. I'm just giving my .02..
Also cams are more then just 10hp up top they broaden the entire power band just with s2s my buddy's IX picked up 40ish in the middle of the power band and another 15 up top with a much smoother power band. Ppl forget its not always peak HP gains you have to look at how it can improve the power band as a whole
Also cams are more then just 10hp up top they broaden the entire power band just with s2s my buddy's IX picked up 40ish in the middle of the power band and another 15 up top with a much smoother power band. Ppl forget its not always peak HP gains you have to look at how it can improve the power band as a whole

Last edited by ODUB; May 22, 2014 at 10:59 AM.
Yeah, I agree. MAP made 446whp on Mustang dyno with an EF2.5 on an EVO 8 with a couple mods that I don't have. If they did that on a mustang dyno with an 8, I figure I should be able to get 450whp on a dynojet with a IX. I could be wrong, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. This heat definitely won't help matters.
MAP EF2.5 turbo
ETS intake
ETS upper IC pipe
ETS lower IC pipe
ETS 3" Widetank IC
Stock IX BOV
Sparktech COP
Forge WGA
Megan 02 housing
Megan 3" dp
Mil.spec 100 cell race cat
HKS Carbon Ti exhaust
EGR delete
Grimmspeed 3port
Ported stock turbo manifold
FIC 1050 injectors
Walbro 255
ARP headstuds
Evolution Dynamics Stage 1 fully built motor (Manely rods, JE pistons, ACL race main and rod bearings, balance shaft delete, other crap, etc, good for 600whp)
93 octane
I'd call that more than "just a few bolt ons" lol the only thing I don't have is cams, and at the current mod level and tune before the rebuild, I was told cams wouldn't make a very big difference, especially for the price, so I got the ported manifold instead.
MAP EF2.5 turbo
ETS intake
ETS upper IC pipe
ETS lower IC pipe
ETS 3" Widetank IC
Stock IX BOV
Sparktech COP
Forge WGA
Megan 02 housing
Megan 3" dp
Mil.spec 100 cell race cat
HKS Carbon Ti exhaust
EGR delete
Grimmspeed 3port
Ported stock turbo manifold
FIC 1050 injectors
Walbro 255
ARP headstuds
Evolution Dynamics Stage 1 fully built motor (Manely rods, JE pistons, ACL race main and rod bearings, balance shaft delete, other crap, etc, good for 600whp)
93 octane
I'd call that more than "just a few bolt ons" lol the only thing I don't have is cams, and at the current mod level and tune before the rebuild, I was told cams wouldn't make a very big difference, especially for the price, so I got the ported manifold instead.






