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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 04:49 AM
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^ I agree ^ This is what FP says:



We no longer recommend using oil supply from the cylinder head for the FP RED™ for the Mitsubishi Evolution 9 or FP BLACK™ for the Mitsubishi Evolution 9 in any applications. Oil pressure measurements made on various engines indicate that in many cases the amount of available oil pressure at the cylinder head feed location is less than adequate. The facotry head feed location prioritizes the turbo oil supply lowest, after all other oil supply duties within the engine. These turbochargers require a minimum of 45psi of oil pressure under full engine load, and sourcing oil supply from the cylinder head simply does not meet this requirement.
The filter housing source is much higher pressure than what is available at the cylinder head. Relocating the oil supply to the oil filter housing allows the turbocharger to be fed a sufficient supply of oil pressure and volume.
Some people may insist that 20 or 30psi of oil pressure is sufficient to supply a typical floating journal bearing turbo, it is our specific experience that this is not true in the case of an automotive racing turbocharger used in a performance application where excessive EGT, high shaft speed and maximum thrust load are the norm, not the exception. Currently, damage resulting from insufficient oil pressure could still be repaired under our Complimentary Repair Policy at our discretion.

Which makes my point, the factory oil feed from the head might be ok for oem boost levels but not for a high boost set up which is constanly driven hard. Here is the link with a nice graph to show their readings.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...Lancer-TurboHW

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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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Anyone have insight on the 10.5 vs 11.5 turbine housings? Curious being as the turbine wheel is the choke point, if the 11.5 with slower spool would be worth a bit more power. If a few users can post-housing size- spool rpm- boost pressure- engine size- cams, it might help some of potential buyers of our best options.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 02:12 AM
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VIII driver.... do you think that if i replace my td05 turbine wheel with a td06 61/54 wheel will gain a lot more power?? but do i get a bit more lag??? at the moment it full boost at 4500rpm, eng spec : 2.3 stroker,264kelford and sure for all supporting mod like fuel...etc
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2.3stroker
VIII driver.... do you think that if i replace my td05 turbine wheel with a td06 61/54 wheel will gain a lot more power?? but do i get a bit more lag??? at the moment it full boost at 4500rpm, eng spec : 2.3 stroker,264kelford and sure for all supporting mod like fuel...etc

The TD06 will definitely give you more top end power, you will however get a bit more lag, i'm making full boost by 4,200-4,300 rpms with a 2.4LR just running on wastegate spring pressure and no twin scroll effect, double check your wastegate actuator arm preload, you should be spooling sooner than that, keep in mind you also need the exhaust housing if you go with the TD06 since the wheel is bigger, let us know what you end up doing !
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by VIIIdriver
The TD06 will definitely give you more top end power, you will however get a bit more lag, i'm making full boost by 4,200-4,300 rpms with a 2.4LR just running on wastegate spring pressure and no twin scroll effect, double check your wastegate actuator arm preload, you should be spooling sooner than that, keep in mind you also need the exhaust housing if you go with the TD06 since the wheel is bigger, let us know what you end up doing !
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 01:04 PM
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Just ordered one of these as well after reading positive reviews. Opted for the 10.5 and this is going on my stock 2.0 block with all supporting mods. I can't wait to get it put on and get it tuned on 94. Anyone have any other problems with this turbo other than the wastegate?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by welshevo
Just ordered one of these as well after reading positive reviews. Opted for the 10.5 and this is going on my stock 2.0 block with all supporting mods. I can't wait to get it put on and get it tuned on 94. Anyone have any other problems with this turbo other than the wastegate?

Congrats, please keep us updated, let me know if you have any questions.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 10:57 PM
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i had a problem with mine leaking oil but apparently it was the older style CHRA , so they sent me there upgraded CHRA.Good to deal with no hassles what so ever.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 03:16 AM
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I was initially going to get the TD06SL2R-20G but after reading this this thread I've found that the 25g isn't much laggier?

I'm now thinking of getting

http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/ki...0ps-4-3-1.aspx

I've got an Aussie IX with just basic bolt-ons and no engine work. Before I order how do you all think the above would suit a daily driven car? I'm looking for around 400 AWHP with the fastest spooling possible. I'm not interested in any turbo's other than the kinguawa's.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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In reality you can do over 400whp with the 9 with boltons and.a set of cams
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by govno
I was initially going to get the TD06SL2R-20G but after reading this this thread I've found that the 25g isn't much laggier?

I'm now thinking of getting

http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/ki...0ps-4-3-1.aspx

I've got an Aussie IX with just basic bolt-ons and no engine work. Before I order how do you all think the above would suit a daily driven car? I'm looking for around 400 AWHP with the fastest spooling possible. I'm not interested in any turbo's other than the kinguawa's.

It should be no problem making 400+ with that set up, just make sure it's tuned good.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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There must be a big difference in the way tuning in the US and AUS is done. The max most tuners push out here is around 350hp with the stock IX turbo on E85.

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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by govno
There must be a big difference in the way tuning in the US and AUS is done here. The max most tuners push out here is around 260kw on E85.
I have readed a lots of aus magazine(Fast4s..etc) there are quite a lot evos running over 300kw on pump gas...
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by govno
There must be a big difference in the way tuning in the US and AUS is done. The max most tuners push out here is around 350hp with the stock IX turbo on E85.
That's pretty low for E85, i myself have quite a bit of cutomers over 400hp with Evo ix turbos on pump gas, check us out i have some of my customers dyno sheets on FB

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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Any problems with space between turbo and rad fan with the koyo (full size) or will
I need to get a slim fan?
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