Notices
Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine builds to the best clutch and flywheel.
View Poll Results: EVO X Transmission Problem POLL
Notchy, grinding, or difficult to engage gears (all the time)
689
40.08%
Notchy, grinding, or difficult to engage gears (only when car is cold)
646
37.58%
Difficult to engage Reverse gear (cold or warm)
146
8.49%
No problems at all
238
13.85%
Voters: 1719. You may not vote on this poll

The official Evo X notchy/grinding transmission thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:21 PM
  #676  
Berserker's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Originally Posted by Darksun280
Thank god for this ****ing thread.
Adding you to the quotes list in my next post.

Originally Posted by Darksun280
Also On cold start this morning I couldn't get into reverse for the life of me. I finally had to row through 1-4 at a stand still then it let me into reverse.
Yeah, I think I've had that happen from time to time with every manual I've ever driven over the past 25 years.

Originally Posted by AboodsEvo
Damn I thought only 8/9's suffered from grinding issues...
Is this not the same gearbox that was in the VIIIs?

Originally Posted by AboodsEvo
...wtf is with mitsu's gearbox?? I drove numerous MT cars none were like this.
Depends on what you've been driving. If you've been living in Hondas, you've been driving among the best manual gearboxes in the world. I've driven a few Mustangs, a Vette, and a Viper, and they made the gearboxes in the X feel like a knife through butter.

The Evo's gearbox HAS to be tough, because it's routing 300 lb-ft of twist through an AWD drivetrain with limited-slips diffs all around and incredibly sticky OEM rubber. By comparison, the trans in a Honda (with no low-end torque - and not much up higher - going through a front-wheel-drive trans with an open diff ) simply does not have to be as tough because what little grunt there is will spin a front tire before ripping teeth off a cog.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:22 PM
  #677  
Berserker's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
The Pattern

Below are some quotes from folks supporting a pattern being seen. This might not be the whole story, but no doubt it's a big part of it and explains why some people report no problems and some report nothing but problems.

Originally Posted by Berserker
The slower I shifted the worse it got.
Originally Posted by boostedsyty
The more aggressive i drive the better it gets so i drive it normal and i stop'd granny shifting : ) much better.
Originally Posted by la_laker_fan
I also noticed that if you shift slow, it seems to grind more often. If you shift quicker, it doesn't happen as much.
Originally Posted by Darksun280
The slower I try to shift the worst it feels. When I shift on the quicker side like i have a purpose though it goes in fine.

And quoting myself again:
Originally Posted by Berserker
I think the insidious thing about the phenomenon is that it most severely affects the people who are trying to treat their cars the most gently.

Last edited by Berserker; Oct 6, 2010 at 05:26 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:55 PM
  #678  
Gardo_Segovia's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: Redlands
Originally Posted by Darksun280
Also On cold start this morning I couldn't get into reverse for the life of me. I finally had to row through 1-4 at a stand still then it let me into reverse.
I experience the same. cold ot not, I made it a habit to shift to 3rd then jam it to reverse...that bish will go to reverse with no hesitation

Originally Posted by Berserker
If you've been living in Hondas, you've been driving among the best manual gearboxes in the world.
...is the only thing I miss on Hondas.

1st to 2nd, shift on 4k+ rpm...the tranny loves to shift with no grinds The more I baby the tranny, the more it disappoints me.

My evo x is now 14,500 miles, but the 15k service was done @ 13,000 miles. (OEM diaqueen used on the tranny)

Last edited by Gardo_Segovia; Oct 11, 2010 at 06:33 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 03:28 PM
  #679  
boostawd16's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 146
Likes: 3
From: IL
i have the same notchy issue from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd, what fluids do you recommend or is there a built tranny out there yet to buy. Im looking for around 650awhp so where would i get my tranny build to hold it when these dont seem to hold my 375awhp to well
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:14 AM
  #680  
BAMFevo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, WI
Originally Posted by boostawd16
i have the same notchy issue from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd, what fluids do you recommend
Yes, me too! +1
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:53 AM
  #681  
GTR2009's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: Romania
you guys are complaining for nothing (notching and grinding when shifting gears at low rpm) )) ...and others brake differentials into pieces )
if you have problems shifting at low rpm, just hold the clutch to the floor and pull the shift lever slower.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2010 | 05:59 AM
  #682  
mocohead's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: CA
I posted a thread about this but thought folks might notice my question better here.

My '10 X was shifting ok (read basically notchy) until my track event on Saturday. About half way through the day, 3rd and 4th became harder to engage and extremely vague. It was as if the notch indicating the transition from neutral to in-gear had disappeared. There is no grinding and the gears are remaining engaged.

Now 2 days later 3rd feels ok but 4th still feels stiff and spongy. I can feel a bit of a vibration when moving the lever slowly into and out of 4th gear. Again, no grinding...

Any ideas what's happening?

Thanks in advance!
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:19 PM
  #683  
learytiemer's Avatar
Account Disabled
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Mine is difficult to engage when cold, might have grinding with the second gear.
Reply
Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:03 AM
  #684  
Wrex1977's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 240
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
My 08 X GSR when cold is clunking when shifting from 1st to 2nd and sometimes 2nd to 3rd. I even have the shifting into reverse issue where it just can't find the gear.

However, this morning on my way to work another noise started to happen. I was in 4th gear and letting the engine slow me down before down shifting and a loud clunking noise started what sounded like under the stick shift. I quickly gave it gas and the noise went away. The noise started at 3000-2000 RPM.

When I was on the highway in 5th gear and traffic started to get bad I did the same thing and let the engine slow the car down. The clunking noise started again and this time would go away when giving the car gas. The car only has 15k miles on it so it's still under warranty so I am going to take it to the shop tonight.

When the clunking noise starts it still drives ok and nothing really noticable happens with driveability. If just sounds like the gear shifter is going to shoot through the roof.
Reply
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:13 AM
  #685  
learytiemer's Avatar
Account Disabled
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Update: after 1400 miles shifts are smooth even after cold start. Also, I make sure the clutch pedal goes all the way to the floor. Sometimes I still hit a syncro problem when need to double press the clutch to engage, although this happens extremely rarely now.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 04:06 AM
  #686  
1GR8EVOx's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: M-town
Originally Posted by Wrex1977
My 08 X GSR when cold is clunking when shifting from 1st to 2nd and sometimes 2nd to 3rd. I even have the shifting into reverse issue where it just can't find the gear.

However, this morning on my way to work another noise started to happen. I was in 4th gear and letting the engine slow me down before down shifting and a loud clunking noise started what sounded like under the stick shift. I quickly gave it gas and the noise went away. The noise started at 3000-2000 RPM.

When I was on the highway in 5th gear and traffic started to get bad I did the same thing and let the engine slow the car down. The clunking noise started again and this time would go away when giving the car gas. The car only has 15k miles on it so it's still under warranty so I am going to take it to the shop tonight.

When the clunking noise starts it still drives ok and nothing really noticable happens with driveability. If just sounds like the gear shifter is going to shoot through the roof.
This is the same problem's happening to my X right now. I took it back to the dealer and have them look at it, and they are saying that they wont cover it with the warranty bcuz the clutch line been abbused, tranny could be affected as well. The car only has 8700 miles and its just a weekend car so why are they saying that the car is abbused?
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 01:23 PM
  #687  
bigtimlikewhoa's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Dallas TX
Originally Posted by 1GR8EVOx
This is the same problem's happening to my X right now. I took it back to the dealer and have them look at it, and they are saying that they wont cover it with the warranty bcuz the clutch line been abbused, tranny could be affected as well. The car only has 8700 miles and its just a weekend car so why are they saying that the car is abbused?
Because they are bull****ting you bro. Clutch line being abused, ur kidding me. If your car is stock and you really feel like u have a problem go back there and tell them to show or prove to u how the hell the clutch line is being abused. How could they tell that the clutch line is being abused anyway? They're straight bsing because the fluid travels from the master to the slave on a hard line. So how can they say its been abused? There's really no such thing as "abusing the clutch line". If you have mods then thats a different situation and whole other topic but they still need to prove and provide a logical explanation on how a certain mod directly affects a deffective part.
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 06:48 PM
  #688  
disturbedfan121's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
From: Central Jersey
i thought it was just me, but 2nd to 3rd shift is always notchy. and sometimes i cna't get into reverse, i have to put the clutch in and try 2-3 times, sometimes it works fine but usually twice is the charm
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2010 | 09:30 AM
  #689  
BBQman's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
From: Montreal
Its been a while since I posted an update in this thread.

So since I have switched to Redline fluids, the shifting has dramatically been improved.
I suspect the combo of oils and the fact that my tranny has 25,000kms make it right.

I am so happy that I forget that I once had issues- I only get reminded when I look at this thread.

REDLINE + mileage = happy tranny.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2010 | 10:29 PM
  #690  
FL4TLINE's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: NYC
hey ive had the usual grinding since i drove my x off the lot and i found a dealer thats actually going to rip out the tranny and attempt to fix it. Im only afraid this is going to just lead to more complications as dealing with the transmission is a very difficult thing and these people at this dealer not only told me to get my 1st oil chang eat 8000mi but they also filled my x with 87 octaine gas...so they are not the brightest..idk wether to go ahead with this or not...any input/experiance with this???
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:28 PM.