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Originally Posted by s2kguy
The 3rd gen and up eclipse's will actively "tune out" modifications. You put in headers... it retunes to zero them out, catback... same thing. Tuner's tried to reprogram the ecu's... No go. Tried using black boxes and such to trick the ecu, but with limited success.
I don't really care who built the Evo X platform so long as the car kicks serious a$$. What if DCX had developed the platform? It wouldn't matter to me so long as the Evo X delivers on what makes Evo great, superior handling, excellent acceleration in a 4 door package.
If this thing can thrill me then my 550whp STI will be up for sale when the time comes.
If this thing can thrill me then my 550whp STI will be up for sale when the time comes.
I don't know why everyone is so concerned with the platform. The Evo has never been on a bespoke platform, it's always been shared with a lesser car. They just take the chassis, stiffen it with welds and extra pieces, and bolt on race car parts. The platform and respective cousins are not that important to the performance characteristics.
Originally Posted by s2kguy
Personally I think they are ditching the 4g63 for reasons you guys aren't thinking about. The Eclipse GSX used to mod fairly well, but then the 3rd gen's showed up. They made the ECU a really PITA and mods became useless.
I think you're going to get a 320ish hp car... that will NOT except mods whatsoever without pulling the ECU and going to some sort of standalone EMS. The 3rd gen and up eclipse's will actively "tune out" modifications. You put in headers... it retunes to zero them out, catback... same thing. Tuner's tried to reprogram the ecu's... No go. Tried using black boxes and such to trick the ecu, but with limited success.
I really think the new Evo's are going to made to hinder any aftermarket parts. That is the direction Mitsu is going these days.
I think you're going to get a 320ish hp car... that will NOT except mods whatsoever without pulling the ECU and going to some sort of standalone EMS. The 3rd gen and up eclipse's will actively "tune out" modifications. You put in headers... it retunes to zero them out, catback... same thing. Tuner's tried to reprogram the ecu's... No go. Tried using black boxes and such to trick the ecu, but with limited success.
I really think the new Evo's are going to made to hinder any aftermarket parts. That is the direction Mitsu is going these days.
Sadly this is accuate. Mitsu is sick of warrenty violations and getting a bad reputatio n
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It's going to be interesting to read information on the finished product, and IMO it isn't all that ugly. Heck just look at what Subaru did to the 06/07 WRX's, now that's ugly, I just worry about the price tag that Mitsu is going to tack on the X. The thing that always made the EVO/STi so appealing to me is the performance/dollar ratio, I just don't see myself spending 40k+ on a car in the near future.
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Originally Posted by AutoXer
Could you explain this please? As I understood it, the exhaust system on the 6G72 in the 3rd Gen Eclipse GT was/is just efficient in stock form. Upgrading really didn't increase the VE. Is the ECU not flashable with ECUFlash? It's been awhile since I left the 3G Eclipse scene.
The ecu after a few cycles will retard timing and add fuel to zero out modifications. A good example is you can change the intake or headers and see a hp increase that day. 3 weeks later however the car would be running rich and loose the hp. Yes I know that dyno's can and will read differently on different days. But the changes to the fuel curves and timing only happen after a modification was put in.
So, I'm betting that the mod friendly evo's will disappear with the X.
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Originally Posted by trexxx8739
they have reflash through JEGS, but I never heard anything on it. And with I/ H/ E all you needed was an Apexi II and have it tuned at WOT.
Look at the IX, most people were not interested in them. There didn't seem to be changes worth switching. Now, there are peple running 11's for $1300. Let's just wait and see. I think alot of people will be changing their minds when it comes out.
Don't judge books by its cover. The X is not here yet... make a big comment when you already drive one. For me, I like it and I will give it a try when the X is here. I'm still keeping my 8. However, the X is one of the cars to think about for my next one 
Originally Posted by antzlim
I'm still keeping my 8. However, the X is one of the cars to think about for my next one
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The current issue of Autoweek has that same shot of the yellow X on the cover. It says inside that it will go on sale here in the States in early 2008 which would make sense since it is launching in Japan in mid-2007. Looks like the dealers information has been correct for the most part. The article also says it will be available with a 6-speed clutchless automatic or 6-speed manual(hooray!) so that's some good news. The NAIS at Detroit in January will have a near-production version on display.
