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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 02:49 PM
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This is where paper stats never tell the whole story. While the MK7 Golf R is better than the MK6 Golf R, it is still a bit bland to drive.

Also, build quality and VW should never be used in the same sentence.
i do like the R though. I never felt as exited as tge Evo or STi, but still has a charm you can get hook up to it.

Basically just very obvious its build from a street car to be performance car, vs the STI or Evo which is the quite opposite.

I would DD a nicely build R though
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 03:17 PM
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS

Basically just very obvious its build from a street car to be performance car, vs the STI or Evo which is the quite opposite.

Both the Lancer and Impreza are developed first, then the STI and Evo. Economy car to performance car. Same thing.

I feel like people put the Evo and STI so high on a pedestal and forget about their economy car roots.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 03:22 PM
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Ken Block new ride...
Mmmmmm... M Sport

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-new...s-championship
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Both the Lancer and Impreza are developed first, then the STI and Evo. Economy car to performance car. Same thing.

I feel like people put the Evo and STI so high on a pedestal and forget about their economy car roots.
lol, been through this. People putting them up that high, because they truly belong there, if you do fully understand what they are.
Yes both has a base siblings, Subaru and Mitsubishi did picked a base very common cheap car, and turned into a race ready car in factory. Very common in EU this method. But the R and the STI or EVO was build for a completely different reason.
Also they are build to be eventually a race car vs the R which build to be a street performance car, that is what I am saying. And that is a night and day difference at the end product.

Nothing proves it more when you drive around them in the first corner. Or sitting in the VW and feel the more daily drive oriented set up and comfort etc.

That's what I have to say again this subject once for all. Specially since there is no more evo anyway
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
lol, been through this. People putting them up that high, because they truly belong there, if you do fully understand what they are.
Yes both has a base siblings, Subaru and Mitsubishi did picked a base very common cheap car, and turned into a race ready car in factory. Very common in EU this method. But the R and the STI or EVO was build for a completely different reason.
Also they are build to be eventually a race car vs the R which build to be a street performance car, that is what I am saying. And that is a night and day difference at the end product.

Nothing proves it more when you drive around them in the first corner. Or sitting in the VW and feel the more daily drive oriented set up and comfort etc.

That's what I have to say again this subject once for all. Specially since there is no more evo anyway
This isn't 2001 anymore. All three of those cars in their last iteration where built from economy cars to be performance cars. They didn't build them to be race cars. Do they have that past? Yes.

With your logic, the consumer VW Polo and Ford Fiesta where built to become race cars too, but hey, we all know this thread doesn't actually contain logic.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 05:05 PM
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I wonder who will end up being the go to for aftermarket parts for the RS. A lot of former decdicated evo shops have long since switched to focusing on the GTR and a 4 banger turbo seems like it would be going backwards. Cobb Tuning? And by parts I mean the whole boat - turbo, drivtrain upgrades, etc.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Cobb does work for the FiST, FoST, and Ecoboost Mustang, why wouldn't they develop for the FoRS?
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 05:11 PM
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They're also getting into VW too. Maybe they haven't gotten an FoRS yet?
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
This isn't 2001 anymore. All three of those cars in their last iteration where built from economy cars to be performance cars. They didn't build them to be race cars. Do they have that past? Yes.

With your logic, the consumer VW Polo and Ford Fiesta where built to become race cars too, but hey, we all know this thread doesn't actually contain logic.
dont put words in my mouth on your on convenience. They are absolutely not build the way i was reffering on the Evo or the STI. Of course you can build race car from ANYTHING, that wasnt a point ever as far as remember in the evom history. The difference is how they came out from factory.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BoostNY
I wonder who will end up being the go to for aftermarket parts for the RS. A lot of former decdicated evo shops have long since switched to focusing on the GTR and a 4 banger turbo seems like it would be going backwards. Cobb Tuning? And by parts I mean the whole boat - turbo, drivtrain upgrades, etc.
why would be a step back, when you open a new market?
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BoostNY
I wonder who will end up being the go to for aftermarket parts for the RS. A lot of former decdicated evo shops have long since switched to focusing on the GTR and a 4 banger turbo seems like it would be going backwards. Cobb Tuning? And by parts I mean the whole boat - turbo, drivtrain upgrades, etc.
there will be plenty of shops that step up... some new ones will prolly pop up... this really isn't a car you gotta worry about having mods for...
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
dont put words in my mouth on your on convenience. They are absolutely not build the way i was reffering on the Evo or the STI. Of course you can build race car from ANYTHING, that wasnt a point ever as far as remember in the evom history. The difference is how they came out from factory.
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He wasn't putting words in your mouth. You're using that phrase wrong. He was applying your logic to different cars to show how bad your argument is.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BoostNY
I wonder who will end up being the go to for aftermarket parts for the RS. A lot of former decdicated evo shops have long since switched to focusing on the GTR and a 4 banger turbo seems like it would be going backwards. Cobb Tuning? And by parts I mean the whole boat - turbo, drivtrain upgrades, etc.
I remember reading that CBRD was picking up a Focus RS. I think the main obstacle, is there will not be that many Focus RS in the States, and a lot of owners will want to keep their warranty. So why develop a lot of aftermarket parts for so few potential buyers?
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BoostNY
I wonder who will end up being the go to for aftermarket parts for the RS. A lot of former decdicated evo shops have long since switched to focusing on the GTR and a 4 banger turbo seems like it would be going backwards. Cobb Tuning? And by parts I mean the whole boat - turbo, drivtrain upgrades, etc.
Look to the usual suspects in Ford ecoboost land. Cobb, Mountune, MAP, RallySport, Deadhook, CP-E, etc. Plus all the others in the UK, etc.

I don't think you will have to worry about options. There is huge aftermarket support for the Focus ST, Fiesta ST, etc etc

The biggest hurdle is going to be the DI fuel system when going for a bit more power, espically with Ethanol mixes.

The good news is the ECU in the ecoboosts are AWESOME. Bosch MED ecu, same as VW uses and they are state of the art compared to the Mitsubishi ECUs. I speak from experience tuning my Fiesta.
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