^ this coming from a guy that doesn't know the difference between rev match and heel/toe.

and yes, adding 50-100mph does make a difference. yes, you pill pick up faster than most since you know how to drive at limits with autox experience. but a mistake on track at 120mph is not the same as sliding in a parking lot and potentially hitting a cone. a mistake on track means you'll end up in the grass and sliding towards the wall at 120 mph or potentially flipping the car. check yo self before you wreck yo self. that's all i gots to say. hope everyone will be safe and don't let your ego get the best of you.

 

This is going to be an interesting event!!!!!

I better than beat anyone's time with the 180 horsepower I'm bringing to the track!

 

^ 180 hp in a 1200 lbs car

 

^ Fixed that for you.

We have plenty to say to each other before, during and after a track day. Same thing with karting. Same thing with pretty much anything we do as a group. Thats just how we roll and its what makes it fun. When you start to take **** seriously, like you seem to be, the fun part goes out the window and it becomes a competition. Thats when poeple wind up crashing and doing stupid stuff because their pride or ego got in the way. Seen it happen a lot on the track with people who have more ego than talent. At an autox its easy to drive 11/10ths and not crash into anything immovable, not so much at a track day. You have to keep your ego in check or you'll wind up in a wall. Isn't that way you stopped tracking your car in the first place, cause you were scared of crashing?

NObody is upset here but you. Behind the computers we are all laughing our asses off and can't wait to see you run a 1:20 second lap your first time out after talking mad chit. Will you improve your times throughout the day? Based on your autox experience I don't see why you wouldn't, thats if you can make it both days without crashing. Will you be in the 14's or 15's your first day or even weekend, not very likely.

 

i have brand new set of Nitto NT01 275/40 17 with build date of early 2012. they would mount perfectly on 9.5" wheels. looking to get $800 for them, maybe less with some favors (homo).

 

I asked because I do not heel toe or left foot brake. Besides I asked if you guys actually do either one on track, not definition. After researching myself many people are confused exactly what it is.

I agree with you the speed itself affects the risk factor, but driving technique, car control are the same basic principles.

Let me say this to everyone that I will be out there with, I will not be acting/driving foolish on track. I have a family I am going home to, not risking my hide to prove any points for anybody. I requested an instructor when I registered because I want to make sure I am driving track correctly, by correctly I mean safe and fast.

 

Additionally, before you can even THINK about dominating anything on track or recording lap times you will need to be solo. In order to get solo'd you have to demonstraight the ability to SAFELY drive your car on track in traffic and in various situations. I know if you go in to the event with the mindset that you want to Nguyen the championship of HPDE your instructor will be very hesitant to set you free on your own because people like that are the ones who wind up crashing.

If you think you are a bad *** and gods gift to all forms of motorsport then sign up for a time trial and run your car as hard as you want. Then come back and brag about how you dominated.

 

I agree with you and I'm with you on that logic alone. I feel you have the natural ability to feel/sense the car and react accordingly. I too am the same way no matter what car you put me in AND like you said if you don't meet your own expectations or preconceived notions then you'll still would of had the fun trying. And willfully accept any *** reaming to come later. I get you bro I get you.

 

short answer about heel/toe.

is it absolutely necessary? NO. but it's highly recommended.

will it ruin your day if you don't do it? NO, but it will ruin your drive train in the long run

do i recommend practicing on track? NO, practice on street. if you messed up on track and your foot slip off the pedal, you might end up in the wall.

 

Pages back Justin said he wouldn't mind releasing Mike. I would assume knowing his driving skill enough to know he wont do ****head things and can handle his own. But like you said too with his current mindset, and the egging on in here regardless if deserved because of good smack talk, I wouldn't want to release him and have that under my name if he crashed alone or into another driver. So I see what you're saying. HPDE is serious business bro.

 

I figured I'd answer why I dislike the GT35R on an Evo, after driving my Evo 9 MR. I never owned an Evo til now or raced one(out of all the cars I've owned and driven in my lifetime), I've only been around them on the dyno or a passenger. But I know from experience and being around dynos that the GTX3076(.82) is the new GT35R, same power but better spool(even faster than a .63a/r).

My reasoning
When you run a GT/GTX35R you need to run it at least 30+psi to use it properly, just like a FP Black or EF4, BUT running these on low boost stock motor or built 2.0 low compression motor on pump gas is stupid. At least use meth injection or better Q16/E85 fuel will allow you to spool them better and get some of the power on the cheap but not fully. If you're going to be pushing 450+hp racing on the track and want to stay on pump and low psi then you could just build a long rod block @ 9:5.1-10:1c/r, s2/3 cams, a worked head and rev to 8.5-8.7k or Stroker.

An Evo on pump with ported FP Green, HKS GTII or GTX30R at 26psi beats a FP Black and GT35R at 26psi. Faster spool allowing to run thru the revs and gears faster but the major point is the smaller faster spooling turbos are in the efficiency map, where as the others are out or just getting into it then having to shift before the sweet spot, so slow spool + no sweet spot = lose.

Also you have to build for a 550+ turbo, and these days I would not touch a stock frame GT35R unless it has the $300 GTX upgrade and double wastegate IWG flapper, but even then at those power levels I would upgrade TB, IM/EM manifold, v-band housing and EWG.

After I save some cash, I will be getting a GTX3076(.82), as I feel it's the perfect turbo for response and power on pump under 30psi.

Do it, you wont regret kid. come at meh.

 

I heel toe and double clutch err day, fools. (I'm serious actually, unless driving my truck ) I learned the double clutch way back when I had a car with a synchro going bad. It became normal habit after that. Now I do it without thinking about it. The biggest difference for me would be pedal position while heel-toeing, since I rarely need to threshold brake while stopping for a redlight or intersection

BTW, these last few pages are serious bidness yo. It's cool, as long as no one ends up with tire marks on their helmet after the track day.

 

Work. I flew out last Friday, and am returning this Friday.

Watching lots of "football" as the Euro Cup is going on right now. Nederlands has a big game tonight against Germany, which I will try to watch.

Wish I would have been able to make the auto-x last weekend at CBP, but I was already over here. I will defintely be out more come later this summer and fall.

 

It's simple logic that people need to realize. Rado, was not the best driver out there. BUT lots of power and aero with a good pit team for setup he dominated and broke records then after time he gets better and breaks his own records. While the grassroot guys with more experience and better skills still can't hang with him. Taking that, If you put Mike in the Kaizen X, I'd bet on him beating everyone in this thread. Power is a replacement for skill but can also be a huge recipe for disaster. ^That is da troof come at me bro.

 

Forgive me for being "that guy" in this group, but this "my-d!ck-is-bigger-than-yours" nonsense is effin retarded. I know some of it is just braggadocio and some is goading...that said: Some of you guys take HPDE _W.A.Y._ too effin seriously. WTF. There are no trophies, no tires, and not even any bragging rights to be had...it's cliche, but "there is no winning an HPDE."

What I actually said was I would instruct him, if he wanted--though I admit that I would not be comfortable with him, or any, new/rusty driver pushing hard enough to hit any target time their first day out/back. Early HPDE sessions are about smooth inputs, proper line, and the demonstration of good situational awareness and track etiquette.

I am not a fan of nor do I encourage any new/rusty student to take a high risk line or drive on R-comps or have any time recording device that gives live feedback--you do not need to know how fast you are going, you only need to know you are putting the car in the right place and that you are aware of the other cars and flaggers on the track.

If Mike is solo'd and then wants to play in your uber-cool HPDE domination bullsh!t then so be it, just don't waste my track time for your clean-up.