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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by momostallion
an intake would cause you to fail smog's visual check even if all codes were clear?

cobb offered a 3" silicone inlet pipe. it mates up to stock position airbox/other. that would be the most discrete 3" inlet i can think of.
Yes ...it dont think replacing the piping would be tho..hmmm...like replacing the IC piping....


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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 01:21 PM
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Yes I considered it but moved away from it for two reasons:

1. Tubular manifold
2. Not stealth enough for me in CA

My current problem is trying to figure out how to find/make a full 3" intake from compressor to filter not look obviously aftermarket...
Apparently some company makes a cast manifold that bolts up to a GTX3076R, or makes a hotside that bolts up to a stock manifold?
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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yes, and they all crack.

test pipe I've run for 20+ years in CA. All in the strategy
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Unfortunately that is only one of the theories of what went wrong. Since I wasn't logging the correct things we really don't know. The only thing I do know is the car leaned out and I have a non working Evo that has been sitting in my garage for the last four months.

I'm getting a solution together to be able to log 'all the things' for this next round...

Logging pressure at the rail, and pressure between the stock tank and the surge tank?

Originally Posted by momostallion
an intake would cause you to fail smog's visual check even if all codes were clear?

cobb offered a 3" silicone inlet pipe. it mates up to stock position airbox/other. that would be the most discrete 3" inlet i can think of.
Originally Posted by zeRep85RA
Yes ...it dont think replacing the piping would be tho..hmmm...like replacing the IC piping....


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Pretty must anything in CA that doesn't have a CARB EO number, will fail. They full vehicle inspections (I think) every other year. So you if you want to pass, it needs to look "stock" so you can squeak it buy the smog tech... I'm so glad I don't live there.
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by momostallion
an intake would cause you to fail smog's visual check even if all codes were clear?

cobb offered a 3" silicone inlet pipe. it mates up to stock position airbox/other. that would be the most discrete 3" inlet i can think of.

I'm less concerned about smog and more concerned about stealth if I happen to get pulled over and my hood popped. If I still have the car in 2020 years for smog, I'll just throw the stock intake on.

Originally Posted by mrfred
Apparently some company makes a cast manifold that bolts up to a GTX3076R, or makes a hotside that bolts up to a stock manifold?
Garrett makes a 100% bolt on GTX3071R and GTX3076R.



Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Logging pressure at the rail, and pressure between the stock tank and the surge tank?
Yes. That is the plan. I have rail pressure already but wasn't logging it.

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They full vehicle inspections (I think) every other year. So you if you want to pass, it needs to look "stock" so you can squeak it buy the smog tech... I'm so glad I don't live there.
Six years for new cars. I don't have to smog my Evo 10 until 2020.

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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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Garrett makes a 100% bolt on GTX3071R and GTX3076R.



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Apparently the benefit of not having a reverse rotation turbo...
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 06:24 PM
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Things are starting to snowball!

Complete stock cylinder head from a 2010 Evo 10 on the way to my place.

I'm out of the loop on current best intakes. What's the best 3.5" intake for the 10?

I'm assuming I'll need a 3.5" for the GTX3076R.
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Things are starting to snowball!

Complete stock cylinder head from a 2010 Evo 10 on the way to my place.

I'm out of the loop on current best intakes. What's the best 3.5" intake for the 10?

I'm assuming I'll need a 3.5" for the GTX3076R.
Why not a 3" with a bigger MAF housing?!
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 07:22 PM
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https://www.maperformance.com/produc...FQx6fgodwAkN_Q

Here's a 3.5" from MAP with a heat shield
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 04:37 AM
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http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/E...-X-Intake.html

ETS also has a 3.5 in MAF housing upgrade. I love my ETS intake I just have the stock size housing but sounds and performs great!
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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Okay head will be here tomorrow.

What's going in:
Kelford 214-b
Kelford valve springs

Possibly:
Supertech valve stems in & ex
GSC Viton valve stem seals

What retainers should I be looking at with the kelford springs? OEM? Something else?

I don't plan on revving the engine past 8200 or so.

Anything else I'm not thinking about or missing?
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 09:43 AM
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If you go with aftermarket valves, I would put brass guides in as well.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
If you go with aftermarket valves, I would put brass guides in as well.
Why is that?
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Why is that?
I've previously had issues (not on import stuff) with stainless valves galling in steel guides. So I prefer to just avoid the hassle and just go with new guides if I get new aftermarket valves. Also bronze guides are better at pulling heat out of the oil film that the valve rides on in the guide, and for racing purposes (track day car), that's always a good thing.


GSC Manganese Bronze guides are $92 for the whole set. And it shouldn't add much to your machine shop bill to replace them. GSC valves are also a bit cheaper than supertech I think.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
I've previously had issues (not on import stuff) with stainless valves galling in steel guides. So I prefer to just avoid the hassle and just go with new guides if I get new aftermarket valves. Also bronze guides are better at pulling heat out of the oil film that the valve rides on in the guide, and for racing purposes (track day car), that's always a good thing.


GSC Manganese Bronze guides are $92 for the whole set. And it shouldn't add much to your machine shop bill to replace them. GSC valves are also a bit cheaper than supertech I think.
While I have no experience with stainless vs brass for valve guides, I can backup LGTD's comments for improved gall resistance and heat transfer of brass over stainless.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Things are starting to snowball!

Complete stock cylinder head from a 2010 Evo 10 on the way to my place.

I'm out of the loop on current best intakes. What's the best 3.5" intake for the 10?

I'm assuming I'll need a 3.5" for the GTX3076R.
What's the mileage on the head? If low mileage and in good shape (including valves) ...maybe just have it deck planed,to assure it is flat, then cleaned,and install.

For that cam + springs just use Kelford's recommended keepers.

Have yet to to see any advantage in changing valves unless warranted.
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