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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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My hta 71 is beginning to fail aswell. theres a fair amount of axial shaft play.
Bummer! How many miles and what are you going to get to replace it?
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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maybe a rebuild.. maybe ...

I have a couple ideas nothing too much planned though.

I bet it failed partially(or all) due to my ALS adventures, which I am still working out..
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
tuned for first(second too) gear needs that ..

My hta 71 is beginning to fail aswell. theres a fair amount of axial shaft play.

Im such a jack ***. I didnt see the 2-1-2 you were pointing out. I just looked at the vertical cell change and thought you were talking of my ramp!

Sorry for being a donkey!

I will note to fix that when I get back on my tuning lap top.
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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just showing how I transitioned my STOCK ECU throttle kicker ALS map to my timing map. Used alt maps as the ALS fuel and timing.

Thought that would give some people something to chew on.
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
Im such a jack ***. I didnt see the 2-1-2 you were pointing out. I just looked at the vertical cell change and thought you were talking of my ramp!

Sorry for being a donkey!

I will note to fix that when I get back on my tuning lap top.
Haha! No worries! It's not a big deal. Maybe you were trying to get the car to jerk forward a little
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud


just showing how I transitioned my STOCK ECU throttle kicker ALS map to my timing map. Used alt maps as the ALS fuel and timing.

Thought that would give some people something to chew on.
What am I looking at? Pretty cool stuff. Do you have all the equipment for ALS?
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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A switch on the throttle indicates "home" and when you lift puts alt maps on. Very crude but makes 7psi on overrun

It's more like a torque reduction system than anything else

Working on an improved sas setup too. Would be better suited for stock ecu..
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
A switch on the throttle indicates "home" and when you lift puts alt maps on. Very crude but makes 7psi on overrun

It's more like a torque reduction system than anything else

Working on an improved sas setup too. Would be better suited for stock ecu..
Is that a physical switch on the throttle or in the ecu?
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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Physical, would love to have a coding guru affix it to the code but.. Not enough interest in it

And you have a really high idle lol! Like 3500 or more

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 12:32 AM
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Still waiting to put it on the Dyno to finish cleaning up the fuel map and add a bit more timing... Completely stock, stock airbox and stock exhaust with a grimspeed, 1000cc and e85 at 25psi

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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Hey All,

I've been reading this forum for almost a full year now, and finally think I"m educated enough to post in it. I've been amazed and grateful for the wealth of knowledge as it has helped me immensely.

I've been working to tune out some seemingly random knock on my 05 for some time now and have been struggling, so I'd like to post up my timing map to get some opinions. NOTE that the timing map reflects some changes I made based on where I was seeing spool up knock. Initially I had pulled a ton of timing in the 80-120 region which was resulting in a bad transition, this latest timing map attempts to fix that. Another thing was I was running 0 to -1 timing in the 280 load range at spool up. After some reading it sounds like this could be causing knock too. In the map below I attempted to add some timing there (u'll see alot of 3s) to fix this (i've read too low of timing can be bad too).

I'm also very curious as to what everyone thinks of the 16-18 degrees of timing i'm running up top. I rarely ever see any counts of knock that high (if any), but it seems a bit higher than what I've seen on some other maps in this thread.

As for the knock being phantom, I'm thinking no due to checking my plugs. I'll post a shot below here in a second, but I saw some speckling on them as well as the tops of the pistons, which I believe means some knock has occurred.


Noteable Car info: 2005 Evo 8, 93 octane, Evo 9 turbo boosting to 24-26 psi depending on temperature, 3" TBE w/ cat, 3.75" Intercooler, ETS LICP, Injen UICP and intake, Spoolin up DIY COP kit running 0.028" gap on BPR8ES, evo 9 DV. Stock Cams, internals etc. Blox front motor mount, stock injectors @ ~92% duty Cycle :-/. VD puts the car at about 350 whp

Let's see your fully tuned timing maps-high-octane-timing-map-rev29.jpg

Let's see your fully tuned timing maps-load-path-vs-knock.jpg

Let's see your fully tuned timing maps-load-path-vs-afr.jpg

Let's see your fully tuned timing maps-load-path-vs-timing.jpg
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 08:44 AM
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Picture of Spark plug as mentioned in the post above, note the speckling circled.

Let's see your fully tuned timing maps-spark-plug.jpg
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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10.9 at peak load is too rich 11.7 is what id tune for
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by todd6027
10.9 at peak load is too rich 11.7 is what id tune for
I'm sure what he has posted is AFRMAP and not wideband.
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Thanks for the comments

@ evo8426: it is the logged value off my AEM wideband
@ todd6027: yeah I've read that too rich can be a problem too. I was attempting to run a little richer though for thermal management. Sounds like you think I should lean it out a little?

Any thoughts on the timing map?
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