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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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To the guys that have the 7163IWG. Due to the smaller housing I was just wondering if you think it would fit with a short runner and if it doesn't what stops it and is there anything that can be done to make it fit.

I'd like to be able to run a short runner that can have a heat shield over the top to hide everything. In Aus it's illegal to have no heat shield and we tend to get fined for almost everything.
Anything I can do to make any mods look less obvious is always a good thing.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stimsoni
In Aus it's illegal to have no heat shield and we tend to get fined for almost everything.
Anything I can do to make any mods look less obvious is always a good thing.
Dang, that is pretty strict. Do you know if rules like that are relaxed for older cars? For example, here in most of the States, if your car is more than 25 years old it will never be inspected for that type of thing.
My 1990 just went 25 and I'm lovin it.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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We do, but's it's not necessarily to do with the age. It's more to do with what the car had from the factory. It's also got a lot to do with what sort of mood the copper is in and how good is knowledge is.

Technically coil overs are illegal as well, but I've had coppers ask me if the car came with them and I just say yes (I think they care more that the lowest point on the car is more than 100mm from the ground). On the other side of the coin I've heard some people getting fined for having a stock BOV.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Benja
Hey guys,

Anyone have any 9180 results to share?
Chasing the best suited EFR to go 750whp (dynojet) with a bit still left on the table or if you have any other suggestions?
Build is a 2.3, Magnus V5, 3.5inch exhaust etc etc.

If you want some left on the table you will need 9180, my 8374 made 743whp on kill mode, so that's about all she's got(until they come out with that bigger AR)but I still think it's the best power band possible
(Magnus, R2 cams, 2.4L)
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by stimsoni
To the guys that have the 7163IWG. Due to the smaller housing I was just wondering if you think it would fit with a short runner and if it doesn't what stops it and is there anything that can be done to make it fit.

I'd like to be able to run a short runner that can have a heat shield over the top to hide everything. In Aus it's illegal to have no heat shield and we tend to get fined for almost everything.
Anything I can do to make any mods look less obvious is always a good thing.
i am very interested in that question. being able to throw a 7163 on with maybe something like the FP manifold would be quite interesting.

they make those bolt on subaru kits which have proven pretty potent.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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i am very interested in that question. being able to throw a 7163 on with maybe something like the FP manifold would be quite interesting.

they make those bolt on subaru kits which have proven pretty potent.
An adapter to mate it to a stock turbo manifold wouldn't work. The turbine outlet is too long to be able to run a DP that will clear the A/C condenser. The turbo needs to be shifted over several inches to be able to clear the A/C condenser.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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yeah thats what i assumed, but it would be very neat to find a "stock like" manifold (whether it be something like a toxic fab replacement etc) that could accomplish that. is that the route you are heading mrfred?

i did a ton of research last year, and just came to the conclusion that an efr setup was too cost prohibitive for me...but if we could collectively find a way to beat/match the price point of the new fp setup, i think that the efr would be a technologically better choice.

EDIT: didnt notice fullrace makes something other than the top mount these days, although its only t3/t4

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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 03:24 PM
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Is it only the length that is causing the dump to hit the ac that is the problem.

Does that mean a custom short runner design that pushes the turbo to the right by a couple of inches would work?

Idthere any definitive proof that a equal length manifold helps spool as opposed to a short runner that has less internal area to pressurize.
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by uvambo
If you want some left on the table you will need 9180, my 8374 made 743whp on kill mode, so that's about all she's got(until they come out with that bigger AR)but I still think it's the best power band possible
(Magnus, R2 cams, 2.4L)
What was the turbo shaft speed and boost on that tune?
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by khmerpimpin
What was the turbo shaft speed and boost on that tune?
Shaft speed not logged but boost was 38psi
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 02:01 PM
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^^ you should try the 9180.
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Looks like the Vband housings have been released:



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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Any new results with the efr 7670 1.05 a/r?? Can't find much info and I would love to try this on my 2.3 build this fall.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 11:10 AM
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to the post above, there are plenty of efr 7670 users, try google.

what i don't understand is why there are so little 7064 users, anyone here with experience?
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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Ok guys, so I am completely new to BW turbos as I've always used FP or Mitsu turbos in my Dsm and Evo's.

Please excuse me as I don't really want to read 179 pages to get basic info.

From my understanding, the intrest in these turbos boils down to maximum spool, hope I'm right with that.

I'm currently on a FP Green and I will be looking to maximize my torque curve and maintain 400-450whp..

I would really like 300wtq at 3000 rpms if possible.

Am I right in thinking the 7163 might be the BW turbo for me? Do they mount to our manifolds or will we need custom manifolds and down pipes?
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