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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing
We had a guy, here that had no mods only a bov, guessing he got a bad motor from mitsu. He got the same thing you did, ( rod knock ) ,, He went as far as court with mitsu, with me writing letters in his defense. Mitsu claimed that with his bov , it injested water and went into the motor causing rod knock. And they won in court due to the fact that he modified his car therefore voiding his warranty. Total BS ...

Another guy a few weeks back,,, got his oil changed by his house in maryland drove 3 hrs to our shop for a tune, The jiffy lube place never tightened his drain plug. It actually fell off about 5 miles from him reaching us with his oil light coming on. I would of bet everything i own that his motor would of been damaged... But by some freak of nature it was fine.. So thats 5miles with no oil whatsoever .... Good luck with your fight.. but 1.5 quarts of oil loss is nothing. You can be as much as 3 down ..and you prob wouldnt see the light yet ..

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Yeah, the BOV story sounds pretty ridiculous. How the hell is a sealed BOV gonna injest water? The only time it opens is to expel air from the intake system. But just to clarify, there was only a quart and a half LEFT in the motor. They're supposed to let me know what's happening tomorrow or this weekend.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew20195
I'm sorry, but I must disagree with you, as does Mitsubishi.



I check my oil every time I fill up with gas, like they used to do in the old days of full service gas stations.

I do sympathize with the original poster, and like many others, if it is not warrantied, I would recommend not having Mitsu install a new motor.
I can understand the point that the manual is attempting to make. However, in a legal setting what the barometer is depends on what is to be "reasonably expected" by the car owner. If I can prove that such a degree of oil consumption is abnormal, even under heavy payloads or high RPM, then the burden lies on Mitsubishi and not me.

We all know that rotaries burn oil like bastards. It's part of their design. Thus, if it comes to court then a rotary owner should have the expectation to refill oil more than on a piston engine. COULD I have checked my oil every time I filled my gas tank? Yes. Was it a reasonable expectation that if I failed to do this then I would blow my motor? No. That's the angle I'm trying to come from, and hopefully everything will be resolved amicably with this.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gsujeff55
Buying a new car, and keeping it mod free....

In the manual it says it is RECOMMENDED that you change the oil every 3k...not check the **** every week. I do, but i have a heavily modified car. As far as mitsu is concerned, a motor that burns oil with 2x,000 miles on it should be replaced in itself....much less if that burning oil caused the motor to take its last breath.

You can disagree all you want, but that isn't right. They can't expect half the people who buy a new car to check the f'n oil once a week....9 out of 10 people probably don't change it often enough either.

Total BS.
I don't want to start a flame war here, but what I had in my post was directly from my owner's manual. And no, it doesn't say check the oil once a week, it actually says you should check the oil EVERY time before you start the engine.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by coachola
I can understand the point that the manual is attempting to make. However, in a legal setting what the barometer is depends on what is to be "reasonably expected" by the car owner. If I can prove that such a degree of oil consumption is abnormal, even under heavy payloads or high RPM, then the burden lies on Mitsubishi and not me.

We all know that rotaries burn oil like bastards. It's part of their design. Thus, if it comes to court then a rotary owner should have the expectation to refill oil more than on a piston engine. COULD I have checked my oil every time I filled my gas tank? Yes. Was it a reasonable expectation that if I failed to do this then I would blow my motor? No. That's the angle I'm trying to come from, and hopefully everything will be resolved amicably with this.
I truly hope you manage to get this issue taken care of under warranty. It is crappy to have your motor blow up with so few miles on it.

However, I would say it IS a reasonable expectation that you check your oil on a regular basis. This is a high performance engine we're talking about. It runs on synthetic oil. It has a turbocharger. Those three factors combined say that this motor is going to use oil, especially if you drive it as it is meant to be driven.

It's not just Mitsubishi. Honda released service information regarding S2000 oil usage. They asked dealers to remind customers to check their oil regularly, and if a car suffered problems due to lack of lubrication, the warranty may be voided (of course Honda is a lot more lenient on warranty issues than ).

Basically what I'm trying to say is this: If you check your oil regularly, and it takes just a few seconds, you won't have to worry about your warranty being denied. More importantly, your engine will be less likely to blow in the first place.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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shame.. but you should have been there when they checked the car out.. didnt read all the posts, but did the rod blow out the block, if so there goes your oil.. just my 2 cents
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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264 cams maybe they wont notice, alky a big no no
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman2011
264 cams maybe they wont notice, alky a big no no
HOw will they know?? All I'm going to tell them is that it's a air monitoring gauge on the IC pipe if they ask.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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base dynoflash void warranty ?

am interested in doing base dynoflash tomorrow as Al is coming over but a little concerned about getting warranty voided once i do my maintenance at the dealership....has anyone been voided their warranty beacause of base flash by Al? would they actually detect 05 that has been flashed?
thanks!!
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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yes the flash is detectable on the 05's but they will have no reason to look at the computer. The 03-04's are not detectable. If you are just goin for maintance they will never know unless they drive the car and feel the WHP difference
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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will it also give me better miles per gallon?
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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ya it will give u better gas mileage because it will be running leaner, i think that alone is a huge plus side to a flash.
o btw. u should get cams also because they will help increase gas mileage if that is what u are loooking for
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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also concerned about warranty, for sure cams will get it voided, but wondering about just with the flash...i guess it was answered earlier...thanks!!!are u going tomorrow?
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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I'd research the gas mileage part a bit further. Last I heard, the only time the fuel maps are changed are @ WOT (or close to it), so you see little to no benefit.


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