here is the original thread

http://digimods.e-visionit.co.uk/showthread.php?t=32582


damn it looks so hot!

 

Its been reported several times that the final version will be at the Tokyo Auto Salon which is in the fall.

 

i think the original wing on the X is what makes me question the looks of the car. the IX wing looks great on it

 

That thing screams subie up front. nice chop though

 

I cant understand all the hate on the new evo x, its like were all acting like the left out child when a new babys born
So i figured id start a thread to find out all the good about the X

1. The new block is going to be perfectly square, as opposed to under our current 4g63 which is under square, the advantage? the engine will be more free revving.

2. It will stock come with dual exit exhausts. The advantage? Lets say it is rated at 320 hp from the factory, if you put an aftermarket single exhaust on, it should free up more power than it freed up on the viii/ix's. The disadvantage is the rear bumper will look out of place with a single exit exhaust.

3. The car will make more power, with less boost. The advantage? You will be able to turn up the boost and make more power than on the ix/viii, with a simple boost controller, don't be surprised to see a bunch of ten second stock turbo evo x's, with all the supporting mods of course

4. Since the car will be built to rev higher, it will hopefully be a lot more fun to drive.

5. Similar DSG- i know i said it, the only reason it is on this list is because if this is your only car and you dont plan to mod much, this could be a very good choice, especially for commuters.

6.It looks very, very good. Anyone who doesn't think so will change their minds once they see it in person.

7. The interior looks great in the concept, specifically it kicks the crap out of the horrifically outdated gauges in my IX.

8. Like the rotors and rims!!!

I will update this post as people give me new things to add, again this is just my opinion so if you disagree, let me hear all your thoughts

 

Where does this concept of a high revving car being fun to drive come from? I find it very annoying to drive an S2000 and always be out of the powerband unless I drive one gear higher than I'm accustomed to. It's the same with a "close ratio" transmission where I have to constantly shift. A close ratio transmission is only needed with a narrow powerband, like for example a lower torque engine, which... would utilize an oversquare design.

What I would like is a high torque but very flat powercurve with a wide ratio trans. That way I don't slow down shifting and I can get reasonable cruising economy and, something very needed in the evo, lower cruising revs. In addition, the kick in the pants when the torque / boost comes on is what makes for "fun" driving.

But I digress... good things about the Evo:

1) It looks very, very good. Anyone who doesn't think so will change their minds once they see it in person.

2) The interior looks great in the concept, specifically it kicks the crap out of the horrifically outdated gauges in my IX.

3) Less wing = good.

 

gonna need more than just a simple boost controller to get into the 10s

 

Is the block still aluminum? From what I have heard, aluminum warps at lower temp's which would prevent from adding to much boost. Of course the people that I have talked to work with older cars mostly.

So my question is really just: Is the aluminum of today a lot different of the aluminum of yesterday?

 

It all depends on the Al type. There are several types of Al, such as 2024, 6061, 7075 and on. All with different strenghts and weakenesses.

6061 and above is considerd aircraft Al.

 

no i said stock turbo, doesnt mean it wouldnt have all the supposrting mods, ie cams, intercooler, etc

 

yes it is still aluminum, but i do not kno the grade

 

Someone should send this pic to mistu corp..

 

I like it cuz the cup holders look pretty.

 

True that Al will have a lower melting point than Fe(iron), but the more important thing to consider is block design. The people that you've been talking to are accustomed to open deck unbraced aluminum blocks that don't handle boost well at all. While the new 4B11 will be open deck, it is supposedly well braced and reinforced to handle boost. Only time will tell.

 

lets hope, i can almost guarantee that it will be stronger than those honda motors