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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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hey also can you run 10 psi and higher on stock internals with a PROPER TUNE? I know I read around 11psi will break the rods, and 15 psi will melt the pistons but I also read that buys in south america or something have ran higher psi on stock internals because they have our cars mastered
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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+1 Steven I don't think its your wires I have never had an issue with them either. Like I was saying before all my hedidtstion was from fuel but it would spike to 17+ afr. can u log your wideband yet? If you can do a full pull in third to redline and if u get hesistation post or send me a log its gotta be something we can pinpoint in the log.

ahhhh here it is 03lance this is the issue im having, its a fuel thing ill post a log tomorrow when I pick up my G-ma from the airport
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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hey also can you run 10 psi and higher on stock internals with a PROPER TUNE? I know I read around 11psi will break the rods, and 15 psi will melt the pistons but I also read that buys in south america or something have ran higher psi on stock internals because they have our cars mastered
Its all in the tune and more importantly the amount of power your putting down at any given psi. My short plan for now is I know my throwout bearing has been going out since b4 my turbo build. (although didnt know this b4 the build or I would have changed it then ) but it makes a rattle whenever I shift and I really think this is whats causing me to have to keep my timing so low. Even as low as it is I can still get rapid knock light if I shift hard. Anyways after I change that I am going to try to up the timing, get dyno'ed then up the boost depending on the power I am at. If I am still below 220 at the wheels the boost goes up a little
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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Its all in the tune and more importantly the amount of power your putting down at any given psi. My short plan for now is I know my throwout bearing has been going out since b4 my turbo build. (although didnt know this b4 the build or I would have changed it then ) but it makes a rattle whenever I shift and I really think this is whats causing me to have to keep my timing so low. Even as low as it is I can still get rapid knock light if I shift hard. Anyways after I change that I am going to try to up the timing, get dyno'ed then up the boost depending on the power I am at. If I am still below 220 at the wheels the boost goes up a little
can you and roadspike look at my logs tomorrow when I post them and see if you can spot a problem? im spiking up to 13 afrs at the most
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I would not think 13 would cause a hesitation, at least it did not with me when I was still working on my fuel and reaching 13 as well. Send them through when you do some logs maybe I can catch something.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 01:39 AM
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I would not think 13 would cause a hesitation, at least it did not with me when I was still working on my fuel and reaching 13 as well. Send them through when you do some logs maybe I can catch something.
ill try to redline it if I can i get really nervous since the afrs are not where there suppose to be. ill post them tomorrow
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Cant log.its raining in Texas the hurricane is pushing bad weather here should clear up in A couple of days
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finally able to get some logs in...

ok so this is what happened today, as I accelerated I heard the noise like its farting or something as it tries to acclerate, so I think its a fuel issue, here and there I can get it up to full boost which is 8, 03lance here are the logs. Im not sure what exactly you did with your tune to prevent it from not going into full boost without any hesitation problems
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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Cool man I will have some time later today to really look at these and I will let you know if I find anything
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Originally Posted by steven121
finally able to get some logs in...

ok so this is what happened today, as I accelerated I heard the noise like its farting or something as it tries to acclerate, so I think its a fuel issue, here and there I can get it up to full boost which is 8, 03lance here are the logs. Im not sure what exactly you did with your tune to prevent it from not going into full boost without any hesitation problems
I took a quick look at the log. I can see the hesitation. Can you do some more logging, but enable IPW and IDC when you do. The 4G94 engine is known for having a flat spot issue around 3500-4000 RPM with their AFRs. After 4000-4500 RPM it'll picks back up. Your logs show this as well.

Also, are people really running their ignition timing this low in their tuning?
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by senate6268
I took a quick look at the log. I can see the hesitation. Can you do some more logging, but enable IPW and IDC when you do. The 4G94 engine is known for having a flat spot issue around 3500-4000 RPM with their AFRs. After 4000-4500 RPM it'll picks back up. Your logs show this as well.

Also, are people really running their ignition timing this low in their tuning?
I think the question is, how are you running it so much higher???
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Ok so this is annoying me what the hell am I doing wrong? I have been trying to open this file for 10 mins I keep getting a corrupted file error and general input/output error. I know its something stupid I am not seeing this is why I am so irritated lol.
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Originally Posted by senate6268
I took a quick look at the log. I can see the hesitation. Can you do some more logging, but enable IPW and IDC when you do. The 4G94 engine is known for having a flat spot issue around 3500-4000 RPM with their AFRs. After 4000-4500 RPM it'll picks back up. Your logs show this as well.

Also, are people really running their ignition timing this low in their tuning?
im running my timing this low because imconstantly getting knocks all the time, sometimes there slow cel, or once in awhile its a fast cel and im not taking any chances on blowing her up. I will log that for you tomorrow morning when im heading to work. if anyone can help me fix this issue, I will definelty repay them for the work


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I think the question is, how are you running it so much higher???
higher? I dont know if its to high or to low, im still getting use to the timing issue, I know how the high octane fuel map works

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Ok so this is annoying me what the hell am I doing wrong? I have been trying to open this file for 10 mins I keep getting a corrupted file error and general input/output error. I know its something stupid I am not seeing this is why I am so irritated lol.
if you want me to email it to you pm me your email again, I had to clear out my messages again
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by steven121
im running my timing this low because imconstantly getting knocks all the time, sometimes there slow cel, or once in awhile its a fast cel and im not taking any chances on blowing her up. I will log that for you tomorrow morning when im heading to work. if anyone can help me fix this issue, I will definelty repay them for the work




higher? I dont know if its to high or to low, im still getting use to the timing issue, I know how the high octane fuel map works



if you want me to email it to you pm me your email again, I had to clear out my messages again
I dont think its anything on your end steven as senate could view it just fine. I know I must be doing something wrong as I have been trying on and off all day and no such luck do I have to rename this file or something? I am using openoffice and have no issue opening my own logs. I tried converting it to a csv file like my own logs are with no luck.
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