RRM Short Ram Intake discussion thread
It was a minor oversight that one company **cough**Fujita**cough** forgot to mention to its customers. Guess they were thinking, "Why put too much effort into R&D when we can just rush a product to market?"
THat is the problem with companies like that. THey have more makes and models of cars to worry about than just the Lancer hence mistakes will be made by them.
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I just think fujita isn't good. It gave problems with the 4gen eclipse and now eclipse. i would personally never touch aem or fujita. Im injen all the way.
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rock are you guys thinking about gettn a dyno for ur intake and exhaust? theres been people doing dynos with ur pully, intake, and exhaust that are saying they were better off stock... something bout rushing ur products into production. people who troll the board enough know what im talking about. those ppl making those posts are the reasons i havent gone to ur shop yet.
how bout doing dyno on ur own products to get rid of all the speculations.
how bout doing dyno on ur own products to get rid of all the speculations.
Doing a dyno wouldn't get rid of speculation. Yeah, a "baseline vs. modified" would be good to see, but people will still complain. And if RRM produced a dyno sheet, I guarantee that 87,000 people would go "it's a lie, it's manipulated, etc." RRM depends on their customers to product dyno sheets. There's not much out there (see the dyno thread).
I could be wrong. But those are just my thoughts on the matter. I have the RRM SRI. I'm happy with the performance it gives. When Spring comes, the SRI will go back on my car. Again, just my two cents.
I could be wrong. But those are just my thoughts on the matter. I have the RRM SRI. I'm happy with the performance it gives. When Spring comes, the SRI will go back on my car. Again, just my two cents.
rock are you guys thinking about gettn a dyno for ur intake and exhaust? theres been people doing dynos with ur pully, intake, and exhaust that are saying they were better off stock... something bout rushing ur products into production. people who troll the board enough know what im talking about. those ppl making those posts are the reasons i haven't gone to ur shop yet.
how bout doing dyno on ur own products to get rid of all the speculations.
how bout doing dyno on ur own products to get rid of all the speculations.
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Last edited by ROCK; Jan 2, 2008 at 02:05 PM.
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And Injen has had nothing but apprasials on how awesome the cai performs on our lancers and how sweet it sounds and on top of that not one single issue of SES reported on its life span so far! I can defend this due to me having the intake for about aprox. 1,500miles and nothing but loving the sound up top and the stock sound down low. This is my opinion and i stand by it fully.
Rock we all appreciate you guys due specialize on our vehicle but its true guys you have to back up your products. Not depend on your customers to spend money on dynos themselfs to post numbers.
Now keep making that turbo and show us you guys are on top
Ok your statement is about 50 % true their. Fujita ****ed up with their CVT issue and some i repeat some had Ses issue just like i had SES issues with your intake as well.
And Injen has had nothing but apprasials on how awesome the cai performs on our lancers and how sweet it sounds and on top of that not one single issue of SES reported on its life span so far! I can defend this due to me having the intake for about aprox. 1,500miles and nothing but loving the sound up top and the stock sound down low. This is my opinion and i stand by it fully.
And Injen has had nothing but apprasials on how awesome the cai performs on our lancers and how sweet it sounds and on top of that not one single issue of SES reported on its life span so far! I can defend this due to me having the intake for about aprox. 1,500miles and nothing but loving the sound up top and the stock sound down low. This is my opinion and i stand by it fully.
But that's my opinion and we're welcome to disagree.
RoB I did my Homework when it came to buying an intake for my car, I saw that you guys made tons for race worthy products for past gen lancers so thats why I choose you guys, not becasue you were the frist to push the 2008 market. I saw that you knew what you were doing.!
Last edited by 08Lancer89; Jan 3, 2008 at 05:50 PM.
RoB I did my Homewoek when it came to buying an intake for my car, I saw that you guys made tons for race worthy products for past gen lancers so thats why I choose you guys, not becasue you were the frist to push the 2008 market. I saw that you knew what you were doing.!
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Heck Yea I am liking your intake! I would have just got the Exhaust but I had to buy new subs. Are you making a newer verson of the the Exhaust anytime soon? If you are maybe I will just hold off a little longer.
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I was reading about some people not believing an intake can increase HP or at least 10hp.. well my cousin who really isnt concerned with tuning decided one day to get a CAI from a well known brand and did a base dyno run on his Celica GT-S, then after installing the intake, he got 11hp and 12 lbs of torque
granted this is THE MOST HP I have ever seen an intake make since I have seen most intakes never ever make power (or LESS power) or only make good peak power but hurt performance everywhere else in the powerband.
The RRM intake looks like it should work fine because you have removed the box around it, so it is free to breathe air and using the stock intake tube is good too because it wont absorb underhood heat into the incoming air as much as an aluminum tube. My only concern is the intake temp without the airbox...granted with the box it doesnt breathe as easily, the temp theoretically should be cooler. Breathing a lot of hot air might offset the gains of a less restrictive system.
Im confident the RRM intake will make some gains, I just wanna see if its all around... I didnt want to mod my new GTS cause I have other toys but if it really does make good power, all I can say is "where do I sign"
granted this is THE MOST HP I have ever seen an intake make since I have seen most intakes never ever make power (or LESS power) or only make good peak power but hurt performance everywhere else in the powerband.
The RRM intake looks like it should work fine because you have removed the box around it, so it is free to breathe air and using the stock intake tube is good too because it wont absorb underhood heat into the incoming air as much as an aluminum tube. My only concern is the intake temp without the airbox...granted with the box it doesnt breathe as easily, the temp theoretically should be cooler. Breathing a lot of hot air might offset the gains of a less restrictive system.
Im confident the RRM intake will make some gains, I just wanna see if its all around... I didnt want to mod my new GTS cause I have other toys but if it really does make good power, all I can say is "where do I sign"
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Gains are something hard to really calculate, if you remove a stock setup, what you really doing is recovering horse power vs. creating it thru any special effect or technology. This is where all these claims about 2 stage this or vortex that.
In my opinion, a short ram in essence is to remove restriction and provide open mouth air access to your engine (number 1). When you play with different designs you may get a further boost in performance if its done correctly, different engines differnet cars and setups make the results vary.
Drop ins in general are designed to allow air to flow better thru a stock setup, again more HP recover but not as much as a SRI with my experience that is. I cant really comment on the WORKS drop in cause i havent had a chance to use it. But their dyno results and project work speaks for itself as a worthy option.
Same would go for the Version one of the RRM brand, they have sold it, havent had any serious problems to date thats been reported, and it does recover horsepower. Their announced efforts are good to hear, as they try to improve on the current design and create more horsepower thru better design.
The problem people who are new to tuning is that they select the wrong upgrades for the wrong application / driving use. Or the dont under stand the drawbacks of what they are buying.
If your someone who is concerned with performance then i suggest you dyno the car parts yourself, these dynos are based on a stock setup. They do not account for changes to multiple upgrades, when you get into Pulleys, Intakes, Exhausts, of different types they all have a +/- minus factor on certain aspects of performance.
I have seen many cars in my time some done well, some done not so well, but you always meet a guy who is always *****ing that his ride just isnt fast enough off the line or responding like he wants it to, But looking at his setup, he had all the wrong mods, it was claiming to a warrior and the sword you carry weighs 3 times what is should, you can swing it around, it can do alot of damage but its not balanced, you cant use it effectivly, and if you keep going at that rate your going to hurt yourself!
Something to think about.
Cheers
In my opinion, a short ram in essence is to remove restriction and provide open mouth air access to your engine (number 1). When you play with different designs you may get a further boost in performance if its done correctly, different engines differnet cars and setups make the results vary.
Drop ins in general are designed to allow air to flow better thru a stock setup, again more HP recover but not as much as a SRI with my experience that is. I cant really comment on the WORKS drop in cause i havent had a chance to use it. But their dyno results and project work speaks for itself as a worthy option.
Same would go for the Version one of the RRM brand, they have sold it, havent had any serious problems to date thats been reported, and it does recover horsepower. Their announced efforts are good to hear, as they try to improve on the current design and create more horsepower thru better design.
The problem people who are new to tuning is that they select the wrong upgrades for the wrong application / driving use. Or the dont under stand the drawbacks of what they are buying.
If your someone who is concerned with performance then i suggest you dyno the car parts yourself, these dynos are based on a stock setup. They do not account for changes to multiple upgrades, when you get into Pulleys, Intakes, Exhausts, of different types they all have a +/- minus factor on certain aspects of performance.
I have seen many cars in my time some done well, some done not so well, but you always meet a guy who is always *****ing that his ride just isnt fast enough off the line or responding like he wants it to, But looking at his setup, he had all the wrong mods, it was claiming to a warrior and the sword you carry weighs 3 times what is should, you can swing it around, it can do alot of damage but its not balanced, you cant use it effectivly, and if you keep going at that rate your going to hurt yourself!
Something to think about.
Cheers